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strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

As I'm considering moving from Leopard to SL (on my two mid-2007 model macminis), best still hesitating, I'm wondering, now Safari/Firefox/Chrome have ceased to continue supporting their browsers in Leopard, whether there are any alternatives that do continue supporting them (incl security updates etc) - maybe Camino?

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.5.8), mid-2007 model (2GB RAM, 120 GB HD)
  • Gary Scotland Level 6 Level 6 (11,320 points)

    Iv been using Camino for a year after having issue after issue with Safari, Firefox and tenfourfox

    Camino for me is much faster and now plays flash video again.


    you must try it.

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Would it be save to use flash video?

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    strawbale wrote:


    Would it be save to use flash video?

    Yes, quite safe.


    Safari is the fastest and safest browser for OS 10.5 Leopard.


    Security of OS X generally:




    Security Configuration for Version 10.5 Leopard:



    Suggestions for ‘safe surfing’:


    1. In Safari Preferences/Security:


    Turn off Java (but not Javascript)

    Do not check the box 'Allow websites to ask for location information'

    Accept Cookies only from sites you visit

    Select 'None' for Database storage


    From the Safari menu, select 'Block pop-up windows'


    2. Do not allow Google to register your interests:


    Removal/prevention of Google cookies:




    3. Download and install Ghostery from


    having read about what it does. It prevents you being tracked by outfits like Doubleclick - and there are many. Glims will indicate how many such tracking devices it has blocked: some sites use as many as 15! This Apple site uses one, sometimes two. That will effectively stop unsolicited advertising pop-ups.


    4. Do not use a cell phone for any financial transactions. Such phones are simply to easy to lose.


    There is no such thing as total internet security, but what I have suggested above will go a long way towards invasive tracking. As regards other aspects of internet security, please read on:


    You will find this User Tip on Viruses, Trojan Detection and Removal, as well as general Internet Security and Privacy, useful:



    The User Tip (which you are welcome to print out and retain for future reference) seeks to offer guidance on the main security threats and how to avoid them.


    More useful information can also be found here:


  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Klaus1, thanks a lot for that!


    I had a look at the links, but the first link redirects to:

    and the 3rd one (for Security Configuration for Version 10.5 Leopard) leads me to:  ?? Edit: found it through googling - 260 pages...


    I've been mainly using Firefox lately, where I have ( roughly) the security settings you mentioned; plus Ghostery, TrackMeNot and Google Analytics Opt-out Browser Add-on.

    Could/should I stay with FF or switch to Safari (with similar settings & add-ons, if possible/available)?


    I do quite a bit of internet-banking and online purchase, though.

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    Sorry about the links! Apple have a habit of 'losing' articles about versions of OS X that they no longer support!


    As for Firefox v. Safari, that has to be your call. I find Firefox much slower than Safari, but whatever suits you best.


    As not all banks keep up with the latest browsers, you may find that some sites work better with one browser, and another with another (if you follow me).


    Keep both browsers on your Mac. With the add-ons you mention you should be pretty secure!

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Since I (recently), as someone had suggest to improve security, unticked all Java preferences in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder , I can a 'missing plug-in' message in emails whenever a picture or so has been attached. Should I leave it like that (and look at the content of the attachment through Quick Look before opening) or is het safe to reset these Java preferences (by clicking Restore Defaults)?

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    You need to keep Java Script turned on (completely different to Java). If you need Java for a particular web site you can alswys activate it, and then turn it off again.

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Confused here: I thought Java Preferences in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder concerned Java not Java script?

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    Correct, and you not seeing images has nothing to do with Java.


    Safari Preferences/Appearance - have you ticked the box Display images when the page opens?

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)



    But the images not appearing happen in Mail - as described here:

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    You have the changed the subject! If you now running Snow Leopard, and you recently applied the latest security updates:


    Mac OS X v10.6: won’t open, or "You can't use this version of Mail…" alert after installing Security Update 2012-004:



    Fellow user Grant Bennet-Alder offers this solution:


    Some users have reported this problem if the Mail Application has been moved out of the top-level /Applications folder, or duplicated in another location.


    When the Security Update is done, the old version of Mail is disabled.


    The solution has been to:


    1) make certain Mail is in the /Applications folder

    2) There is no other copy anywhere else.

    3) Once steps 1 and 2 have been done, Manually download and re-apply the Security Update (2012-004) by hand.


    Security Update 2012-004 (Snow Leopard)




    If the has been LOST, it can be re-installed by applying the 10.6.8 version 1.1 combo update. But this update is quite large and it is usually not necessary:


    Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    sorry, sorry, hadn't realized the article was on SL. But the same thing (= no more images in attachment in Mail) happens (happened to me) in Leopard (I don't have SL) after I unticked the mentioned Java Preferences.

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)

    There shouldn't be any connection between Java and mail attachments.


    Mail Preferences/Viewing - have you got the Display Remote Images box checked?

  • strawbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, I've got that box checked.


    And when I 'Restore Defaults' as suggested in the CNET article, the images do reappear in Mail...

    So my dilemma continues to be: all Java preferences unticked for mure security, but no images or pdf visible in Mail, or the other way around??

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