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Hard disk replacement program

I just received an email from Apple saying that my iMac hard disk needs to be replaced urgently. I made an appointment with the Genius on coming Sat. I have some questions about the replacement and seeking the advice with other people who has got similar experience.


1. Does Apple replace my old hard disk with a brand new hard disk only? If so, it gives me very painful exercise to re-install all the softwares.

2. Can they clone my old hard disk with the new hard disk to save my lots of hassle?

3. In my hard disk, I have a partition for BootCamp with Windows 7 OS. Do I need to re-install it completely as I believe Apple will not touch other OS?


On one hand, I am very impressive with Apple reliable and responsible service and on the other hand it will interrupt my usage of iMac for sometime. I am seeking the advice from other experience hands.


Thanks,


Ray

iPad 2, iOS 5.1.1

Posted on Oct 22, 2012 10:49 PM

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Oct 22, 2012 10:53 PM in response to Ray Li1

You will need to reinstall everything; you should have a complete backup and you should also erase the old hard drive before turning it into Apple. The easiest would be do make a bootable clone; that way, you can simply clone back your system. However, I don't run Windows/Bootcamp, so I do not know if something has to be done differently in that case. As for Apple "not touching other OS" - your entire hard drive will be replaced - that means whatever is on your hard drive now will be gone permanently.

Oct 22, 2012 11:20 PM in response to Ray Li1

You can use either CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper and will need a properly formatted external hard drive. Clone your current system to the external drive and test to make sure it boots. Boot into your install disk and erase your internal hard drive and reinstall a base system. When you get your Mac back, attach the external hard drive, boot into it, make sure the internal drive is properly formatted, and clone your system back. Done.

Oct 23, 2012 12:01 AM in response to babowa

Thanks for your useful info. In terms of hardware, I need to have hard disk adaptor with usb interface and a 1TB hard disk. Am I right to have these essential hardware with the software recommended?


How can I test the bootable copy of external hard disk before erase the old hard disk in the computer?


It seems I can do above on Macintosh HD partition but not the BootCamp Windows. The Windows and other application programs have to be re-installed completely.

Oct 23, 2012 12:43 AM in response to Ray Li1

iMac has FW connections. That's all you need. USB is slower than molasses and is the second to last choice, the last being wireless. No need for an adapter. Just use an appropriate FW cable. To test the clone, you select it from System Preferences->Startup Disk and click on Restart button. Then, launch e-maol, surf the web, and run your favorite apps. If you everything works like the original, that should be enough to convince you that works properly.


Windows cloning requires something like WinClone. See http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-p artition for details.

Oct 23, 2012 1:34 AM in response to Ray Li1

FW = FireWire. Details in your Everything Mac booklet.


Then, you need to invest in an ext FWHD. Do note that the HD only needs to be a bit bigger than the used portion of the volume that you're backing up; although, most ext HDs are at least 1 TB or larger these days. Peruse these for preliminary information


http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html

http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/backuprecovery.html


and then DL and read CCC's documentation.

Oct 23, 2012 2:09 AM in response to baltwo

Would it be difficult to get ext FWHD now? Apple gets rid of FW support on their machines and now completely removed from 30 pin connector. If only for speed, I am hesitate to invest it for one time use. For the lager size hdd, I do not mind to have a 2 TB hdd for it but I do worry not to send back the cloned image back to replacement hdd due to in correct size.

Oct 23, 2012 2:34 AM in response to Ray Li1

You state that this is an iMac. FW is built-in. No obsolescence there. What 30-pin connector are you talking about? One time use? If you're myopic and depending solely on a Time Machine backup, you'll regret that choice. When you restore, you only copy the UISED space not the total space. Also, forget about images, that's old school and not viable in this case. Read the links and learn the modern methods.😀


There's no reason to rush ahead and get it replaced by Saturday The odds that it'll fail then are miniscule. Prepare for the swap and when you're ready start the process. It's good till at least 12 APR 13.

Oct 23, 2012 8:58 AM in response to Ray Li1

I see you're in good hands here, so I'll just add:


You should have an external hard drive with a backup anyway. So, if you don't have one now, this is a good time to get one. There are many different brands; a good one is here:


http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW400_USB


It comes with all the cables necessary. Most external hard drives are formatted for Windows, so you need to change that. When you get the drive and plug it in, go to Disk Utility (in Applications folder > Utilities), select the drive, and make sure it is formatted correctly (Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and GUID Partition scheme (under Options). Format/partition it (which will erase the drive to get it ready) and you can then use CCC or SD to clone your entire hard drive system and files over.

Oct 26, 2012 9:41 PM in response to babowa

Thanks for your adive. I have some queries before I invest in this backup drive.


1. That is for once off to clone my entire hard drive. My hard drive is 1 TB so I need to buy 1 TB minimum?

2. Do I need any other software. What are CCC or SD?

3. Using FW800 is for its highest speed as compared with USB 2.0?

4. I have to format the HDD to Mac OS format and use for Mac machine only. As in my home, I have both pc and Mac computers. If it can be used as home backup, I will buy a larger one and if not, buy 1 TB only.


Thanks!

Oct 26, 2012 9:52 PM in response to Ray Li1

1. I would not consider it for one use only. I update my clones regularly to have a good backup in case I have a problem with my hard drive (I actually have a problem with it right now). I use that as a backup.

2. Yes, you need either CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) or SuperDuper (SD) to create a bootable clone on another drive. I prefer a bootable clone; however, you could also use Time Machine which is included in the OS (not bootable though) - I choose not to use that and rely on my clones. If your hard drive has a problem, you can boot with your clone and keep working/troubleshooting your hard drive.

3. Absolutely: FW800 is much faster than USB 2; I try to avoid USB2 as much as I can - too slow. (I have not tried the new USB 3, so that may be faster, but I can't compare something I haven't tried).

4. Well, on that I hope someone else will answer here - I do not run anything Windows, so I don't know what to say here. Just in case - if you want it only for the Mac, you would format it Mac OS Extended (Journaled) with the GUID Partition scheme. You could also go to Support (at the top of the page) and search for Windows articles; another place to check is your Help section in Utilitites > Disk Utility > search for Windows > I just did that and got a full page of how to format a disk for Windows.

Oct 26, 2012 10:27 PM in response to baltwo

As I never used FW, I did not notice there is FW port with my iMac. Is it FW 800 or 400? The 30-pin connector refers to the recent introduction of iPhone 5 using Lightning port. Apple removes FW support for any iDevices so I believe FW has completed its historical task and ends his life.


Yes, no hurry to replace the program. I cancelled the appointment and will book it again after I successfully create a workable drive. Thanks!

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