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Q: No DVD drive in new iMac ???

So I have just completely upgraded my 15 years of home movies on DVD over the last year.

I converted video, old DVDs and used imovie to make great copies for all the family.

 

I just learned that if I get a new imac from Dec 2012, they have no DVD drive ?

What ?

If its true, then I need to buy into some device that can play and burn them for the next years.

 

Yep, Apple have a vision, but I cannot see it and I am 50.

In 180 months , when I am 65, I wont care about the visons of Apple.

But i will care about the memories on the discs and as Apple dont let on why they restrict the continuation or stop the use or anyone else using aformat that quite honestly is massively serviceable today and will be for some years.

 

Glad I dint chucj out the old dell and also, I will going fire her up to play my movies and memories. Steve Jobs is pictured on some of those DVDs, guess the new guys wanted to move on pretty fast from that era too !

 

Hmmm, now where is the off button, I need to do some exercise and get real again !

 

see ya

iMac (27-inch Mid 2011)

Posted on Oct 23, 2012 3:19 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Dec 29, 2013 8:35 AM in response to Hemlaw
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    Dec 29, 2013 8:35 AM in response to Hemlaw

    When zB2 says that it's very funny, wannabee's are less funny, and less original.

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Dec 29, 2013 12:17 PM in response to Csound1
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    Dec 29, 2013 12:17 PM in response to Csound1

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Hi Plotinus, note that zB2 does not deal in fact, please do not introduce any.

     

    Thanks.

    Utterly my mistake in this regard, thanks for the correction.

     

     

     

    zBernie2

    Modern, internal optical drives are extrmely reliable.

     

     

     

    I already said that earlier, obviously you didnt read the reasons for its removal, which has nothing to do with Optical Drive reliability.

     

    It was stated:

     

    Zbernie, I have (counting) including the tower replicators, 34 DVD burners here, they are incredibly reliable this is true.

     

    1. Superdrive is a slot loading drive........meaning cleaning the laser diode lens is impossible for the common user, .....however this is not a mechanical failure ,but nevertheless cannot be cleaned by users.

     

    2. Additionally, having burned more blank DVD than anyone youll meet, I can tell you that users have / do/ will complain that a DVD burner is defective when in fact its the huge amount of low grade BLANK MEDIA that is at issue.      low grade DVD blanks have about a 8 to 10% reject rate.

     

    3. Also the slot loader has several MORE moving parts than a tray loading DVD player / burner.

     

    4. All these collective facts combined with , now, very low need / use of DVD for commercial media Audio / Video / Software, is the premise for the removal of the DVD Superdrive from the Imac.

     

    5. Additionally it could not fit in the slim Imac (newer) chassis.

     

    6.  also externally now, the Superdrive doesnt require the Imac be serviced, rather only the Superdrive, ....very logical.

     

    Suggest you consider the logic of 1 thru 6

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Dec 29, 2013 12:16 PM in response to PlotinusVeritas
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    Dec 29, 2013 12:16 PM in response to PlotinusVeritas

    You're most welcome

  • by emburg,

    emburg emburg Feb 22, 2014 6:40 PM in response to WisdomTooth
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    Feb 22, 2014 6:40 PM in response to WisdomTooth

    Totally agree. I couldn't believe it when my dad rang me from interstate to ask me where his dvd drive is on his brand new (expensive) imac was. "On the side" I kept telling him, referring to where my own imac dvd drive is. "There's nothing there" he kept telling me. Sure as eggs, I google the question and lo and behold there is no dvd drive. That is soooo stupid.

    Apple, stop designing with the 1%-ers in mind. The 1% who are always up with the latest in technology and who can afford things as soon as they first appear on the market. The majority of us still want a dvd drive, something to either burn our docs, movies, music, photos to, or to insert our docs, movies, music, photos into. You don't need to worry about why we might be using something semi-outdated, you just need to concern yourself with providing what the customer actually WANTS. Believe me if I were in the market for a new computer today and the salesperson showed me two computers, one with and one without a dvd drive, I know which one I'd be forking out the cash for.

    Stupid, stupid move. Steve Jobs would be rolling in his grave.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Feb 22, 2014 7:06 PM in response to Csound1
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    Feb 22, 2014 7:06 PM in response to Csound1

    I am just truly amazed that this thread is still going two years later.

    Is this hardware ommision really still an being treated as a major issue after all this time

    Really?????

  • by richsadams,

    richsadams richsadams Feb 22, 2014 7:33 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Feb 22, 2014 7:33 PM in response to MichelPM

    MichelPM wrote:

     

    I am just truly amazed that this thread is still going two years later.

    Is this hardware ommision really still an being treated as a major issue after all this time

    Really?????

     

    Apparently.  Although I know some folks have legitimate reasons to continue to use physical media for a little longer, it's easily resolved.  I suspect that there are others that would still like to see 5.5" floppy disk drives in their new computers.

     

    Here's my solution to the "missing" DVD drive (on the very rare occasion that I need it) as well as the less-than-handy access to the USB ports on the back of my Late 2013 27" iMac.  Works beautifully.

     

    iMac_DVD_USB.jpg

     

    FWIW I also have a Blu-ray writer when the need arises...again...rarely.

     

    Do I miss the side-slot CD/DVD drive in my old iMac?  Not in the least.  This new machine is awesome...wouldn't trade it for anything.

     


  • by David M Brewer,

    David M Brewer David M Brewer Feb 22, 2014 7:49 PM in response to richsadams
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    Feb 22, 2014 7:49 PM in response to richsadams

    With the new iMac... I've been able to finially remove this from my desk... takes up to much space!

     

    safe_image.php.jpeg

  • by Hemlaw,

    Hemlaw Hemlaw Feb 22, 2014 7:52 PM in response to emburg
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    Feb 22, 2014 7:52 PM in response to emburg

    I know exactly how you feel.

     

    It's amazing to me that, after 94 pages of comments, we still have Apple apologists who don't understand that consumers are right....if you want their money.  On the other hand, if you don't want their money then it's ok to label them.

  • by David M Brewer,

    David M Brewer David M Brewer Feb 22, 2014 7:53 PM in response to Hemlaw
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    Feb 22, 2014 7:53 PM in response to Hemlaw

    Hemlaw wrote:

     

    I know exactly how you feel.

     

    It's amazing to me that, after 94 pages of comments, we still have Apple apologists who don't understand that consumers are right....if you want their money.  If you don't want their money, then it's ok to label them.

    1800276_10153831550035084_1825923343_n.jpg

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Feb 22, 2014 8:10 PM in response to richsadams
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    Feb 22, 2014 8:10 PM in response to richsadams

    That's a real cool, clean solution!

    I like it!

     

  • by justamacguy,

    justamacguy justamacguy Feb 22, 2014 10:02 PM in response to grandfield
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    Feb 22, 2014 10:02 PM in response to grandfield

    So funny that tonight I saw this post pop up on my phone... because I was just thinking about it yesterday as I walked through a Walmart in Loveland, CO. As I got to the electronics department I walked through 4 consecutive isles approximately 50 ft. long. 8 shelves, 7 feet tall, product at least a dozen deep. Then off to the side was a half dozen circular displays approximately 4 ft in diameter and 7 ft. tall all loaded with product. And I sarcastically thought to myself, “I bet Walmart stocks all this product just so they can lose money on it.” Apple… so far ahead of it’s time, it’s behind.

  • by richsadams,

    richsadams richsadams Feb 22, 2014 11:03 PM in response to David M Brewer
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    Feb 22, 2014 11:03 PM in response to David M Brewer

    David M Brewer wrote:

     

    With the new iMac... I've been able to finially remove this from my desk... takes up to much space!

     

    safe_image.php.jpeg

     

    Brilliant!

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Feb 22, 2014 11:23 PM in response to Hemlaw
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    Feb 22, 2014 11:23 PM in response to Hemlaw

     

     

     

    Hemlaw wrote:

     

    we still have Apple apologists who don't understand that consumers are right..

     

    You simple both dont understand, and are not taking massive looming facts into consideration.

     

     

     

    1. Superdrive is a slot loading drive.....meaning cleaning the laser diode lens is impossible for the common user, .....however this is not a mechanical failure ,but nevertheless cannot be cleaned by users.

     

    2. Additionally, having burned more blank DVD than anyone youll meet, I can tell you that users have / do/ will complain that a DVD burner is defective when in fact its the huge amount of low grade BLANK MEDIA that is at issue. Low grade DVD blanks have about a 8 to 10% reject rate.

     

    3. Also the slot loader has several MORE moving parts than a tray loading DVD player / burner.

     

    4. All these collective facts combined with , now, a very low need / use of DVD for commercial media Audio / Video / Software, is the premise for the removal of the DVD Superdrive from the Imac.

     

    5. Additionally it could not fit in the slim Imac (newer) chassis.

     

    6.  also externally now, the Superdrive doesnt require the Imac be serviced, rather only the Superdrive, ....very logical.

     

    7. The older Imacs, in circulating air, brought air THRU the superdrive also which deposited dust ON the laser diode lens, which in a dusty room, creates after time a superdrive that wont read/ write.

     

    8.  I have a dozen or so Superdrives Ive removed from machines in the corner here, and replaced quite a few in fixing some Macs (mostly Mac minis), and I can tell you that inside (theyre made by Panasonic by the way) theyre mechanically COMPLEX, with quite a few moving parts.

     

    Suggest you consider the logic of 1 thru 8 

     


  • by richsadams,

    richsadams richsadams Feb 22, 2014 11:30 PM in response to justamacguy
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    Feb 22, 2014 11:30 PM in response to justamacguy

    justamacguy wrote:

     

    So funny that tonight I saw this post pop up on my phone... because I was just thinking about it yesterday as I walked through a Walmart in Loveland, CO. As I got to the electronics department I walked through 4 consecutive isles approximately 50 ft. long. 8 shelves, 7 feet tall, product at least a dozen deep. Then off to the side was a half dozen circular displays approximately 4 ft in diameter and 7 ft. tall all loaded with product. And I sarcastically thought to myself, “I bet Walmart stocks all this product just so they can lose money on it.” Apple… so far ahead of it’s time, it’s behind.

    I hear the 5 for $5 bin has some great deals! 

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Feb 22, 2014 11:38 PM in response to richsadams
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    Feb 22, 2014 11:38 PM in response to richsadams

    *Edit for former edit

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