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2010 Mac Pro, Overheat, Fans Won't Speed Up

Hi all,

I was using my 2010(5.1) quad core single CPU mac pro for video conversion using Handbrake. I have the Hardware monitor installed and was able to see the core temperatures from the odd core numbers(actual cores) went up to 86+ degree celcius(NOT Fahrenheit). What I noticed was that the Fan speeds were still pretty much the same as when the computer is idle(a very slight increase). I saw that another person also experience this with the 2009 mac pro: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/2009_mac_pro_cputemps/2009MacPro_cpu_temps.h tml


This is a quote from the article: And I still wonder why the 'booster' fans (in the heatsinks) never seem to spin up very much off the default speeds. (On my dual 2.66, even with cores(not the heatsink or diodes) in the 80's C the booster fans are reported to only be a hundred rpm or so higher than idle on my system.)

I wonder about the same thing:why the 'booster' fans (in the heatsinks) never seem to spin up very much off the default speeds?

Do we both have defective computers? Or something else is going on.

I realized these CPUs will shut itself off when it reach critical temperature(might cause permanent damage) at about 95-100 degree Celcius, but I don't understand why my mac pro doesn't just boost up its fans at that point closer to the hard shutdown(86+ celcius).


Does anyone that have the 2009 or newer mac pro(4.1 or 5.1) knows at what core temperatures that the fans speed up considerably?


Thank you

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), Mac Pro 5.1 2.8 Ghz Quad Core CPU

Posted on Oct 24, 2012 8:52 AM

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Oct 27, 2017 1:17 PM in response to d10nisius

I know this is an old thread but I am going to give my numbers anyway since I have something wrong.


I am measuring temps and fan speeds using iStat6 on a Mac Pro 4,1 (2009) with dual CPUs.

Booster 1 fan: 0 RPM; Booster 2 fan: 5200 RPM

CPU A temp (Tdiode): 54C; CPU B temp (Tdiode): 42C. The heat sink temps are about 4C cooler.

All other fan speeds seem normal. That 5200 RPM is just crazy and noisy so I am trying to figure out how to fix it.

Nov 1, 2012 8:41 AM in response to d10nisius

d10nisius wrote:


Does anyone who owns a 2009 or newer mac pro ever hear their fans speed up?

I can't say that I've noticed but I use smcFanControl and boost the fan speeds manually when the operating temperatures go up. Apple tends to value quiet over cooling; the fans do tend to speed up a bit if the Mac is working hard but not as much as I would like so I don't wait.


What you might check is, first, that all the fans are actually working, and second for any dust buildup which might inhibit cooling.


I've found Temperature Gauge on the App Store to be helpful for measuring both temperature and fans speeds especially because the fan speed graphs will show the minimum speed and how much the actual speed might be above it. That will give a hint that the internal temperature controls are actually working. For example, right now, the default BOOSTA fan speed is 800 RPM but the fan is actually running at 1070 RPM. Given how it's buried in the CPU heat sink, I doubt I could tell the difference by ear.

Nov 1, 2012 1:22 PM in response to FatMac-MacPro

Thanks a lot for your response. I actually use the Hardware Monitor which shows the thermal sensors and fan rpms and log the history of the fan and all temperatures. I tried the the temperature gauge, but for whatever reason it didn't work correctly on my mac pro(2010).

I did a couple torture tests recently, one before SMC reset, another one right after SMC reset to exclude the possibility of that the SMC need to be reset. I monitor the temperatures for the cpu cores and the rpm of all the fans including the BOOSTA.

The fans did not speed up before and after the SMC reset at 85+ degree celcius. By not speeding up, I mean they did not speed up at all. All the fans were running with the exact same lowest rpms when the computer was idle. And all the fans are physically working. As far as dust, the internal is actually super clean.

Does your fan ramping up pretty often? When it is speeds up, can you tell me what your cpu core temperature?

I tried the apple support(talked to 4 customer support and 2 senior advisor). No one can tell me at what temperature the fans supposed to speed up.

I tried to do Apple hardware test, but for whatever reason I couldn't get it to load during startup(pressing the D or pressing the option + D key).

Nov 1, 2012 2:11 PM in response to d10nisius

d10nisius wrote:

...I tried the the temperature gauge, but for whatever reason it didn't work correctly on my mac pro(2010)...

Initial, that app, which was originally called '"Check My Temp" didn't work properly with my Mac Pro either, but updates got it working better.

...Does your fan ramping up pretty often? When it is speeds up, can you tell me what your cpu core temperature?...

Using smcFanControl, both one of the fan speeds and one of the temperature readings is always in the menu bar. When I see it approach 100ºF, I switch to a higher fan speed combination, so I'm usually ahead of whatever SMC will eventually do automatically. Right now checking Check My Temp, and using Apple's default fan speed settings, CPU A Core is 152ºF, its heatsink is 90ºF, the BOOSTA default fan speed is 800 RPM but the actual speed is 1070 RPM. Of interest is that the iStat Pro reading for CPU A is also 90ºF, suggesting that it may not be reading the core temp, assuming that core temp reading is correct. Ambient is about 68º. One thing that may make a bit of difference is that I'm filtering the air in the CPU tunnel (the bottom section with the intake fan up front, the CPU fan in the processor tray, and the exhaust fan in back) since that's the hardest to clean out. That may restrict the air flow a bit but the filter does capture dust and, especially in warm weather, I make sure to keep it clean.

Nov 1, 2012 2:25 PM in response to d10nisius

AHT only works with the OEM DVD present.


I thought even, 0, 2, etc were actual and odds were virtual / logical cores but whatever.


85*C is not nice and fans are not - so have you tried SmcFanControl current version and manually set a profile for various fan speeds? new default 900, medium 1100, etc?


Is this "stock" or did you upgrade the processor? very common to do and put W3680 in yourself.

Even if not you may want to check the how to on MacRumors and redo thermal "paste" and clean the head.


Even Intel is not totally public but that is who would know and to ask and research but TjMax gets more complex in ways


Seeing as it is partially software, have you tried a trial test clean install with just Mac Apple OS?

Nov 1, 2012 7:34 PM in response to The hatter

Thank you for your help and info about the AHT,

This is a stock 2.8 ghz processor, untouched. I actually did do a clean install of mountain lion. I really really appreciate you guys helping me with these tips. I'll take a look at the redoing the thermal paste. This is my first mac. I thought that a mac are pretty hassle free since the hardware design is so amazing. I guess I'm wrong. This remind me of building my own custom made pcs where I need to manually change the fan speed and replace the thermal paste.

Nov 1, 2012 7:56 PM in response to d10nisius

d10nisius wrote:


Thanks again for the reply.

I'm testing the smcFanControl. It seems to be working fine. I'm able to create different profiles and bump up the fan speed manually. It just seems pretty silly for me to have to babysit what supposedly a professional workstation.

If you spend a lot of time looking through the posts on the various Apple forums, you'd be amazed at how much complaining is done about too much fan noise and how uncommon concern about overheating is. As computers move more and more in the direction of phones and fashion accessories to meet the changing user profile, I expect that cooling will move even further down the priority list just as simplification of use becomes more important for "low-information" users; manufacturers recognize this and adjust their designs accordingly. So the professional user has to act defensively, but fortunately I think is up to the task.

2010 Mac Pro, Overheat, Fans Won't Speed Up

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