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lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

Hello,

 

As ever, I still struggle with organizing in Aperture and have read a variety of threads on the topic.

 

I know I'm supposed to think of projects as permanent storage and albums as a means of organizing images.

 

Is there a way to set up projects up by year and then organize by month?  In other words, I don't want to look at the stacks.  Instead, I'd like a project to hold all photos from 2012.  Within that project, I'd like the images sorted by month.  I'd then like to make a variety of specific albums or projects within that, but ultimately, the most important thing for me is having all of 2012 together and then further subdivided by month.

 

Thanks!

lsb


iMac, Mac OS X (10.3.x)
  • 1. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,945 points)

    What you want to do can be easily done with Folders.  But let's solve the whole problem.

     

    What is your current organizational structure?

     

    What needs for publishing or retrieval do you have?

     

    Can you describe, briefly but not laconically, how you would like to interact with your photo collection, from import to export, over the course of a couple of years?

     

    Does everything in this short post make sense to you?

     

    What do you mean by "stacks" in "I don't want to look at the stacks"?

  • 2. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Hi Kirby,

     

    1) Current structure is that I imported my iPhoto library and it looks like it's all in folders/albums.  One main folder per year with smart albums for each month inside.

     

    2) My needs for publishing and retrieval aren't that great as they are just my family photos and what I like to do is view the entire year at a glance and then be able to retrieve by month.  I like the visual look of this rather than organizing by date.  I upload photos for printing a few times a year.

     

    3) From import to export I'd essentially like to see the photos for each year in a single location (as you can in iPhoto) but further broken down by month or individual projects from larger trips, i.e., California June '12.  I'd like to also see all the photos as an entire library starting with earliest photo, roughly 2002.

     

    4) Stacks to me means each time you upload photos there is a photo underneath which there are additional photos from that specific event.  I don't like to view like this-I prefer to view each photo individually.

     

    Hope this helps and thanks!

  • 3. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,740 points)

    Current structure is that I imported my iPhoto library and it looks like it's all in folders/albums.

    I do not see any projects in your list? Then you cannot have any images in your library

  • 4. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Sorry, I missed out a bit.

     

    I imported the iPhoto library and that is all in folders/albums.

     

    For the past two years I have been importing directly into Aperture so there are a variety of projects/albums.  I now would like to organize it...

     

    Thanks.

  • 5. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    DiploStrat Level 2 Level 2 (345 points)

    All very easy - the trick is to remember that terms like "project", "album", and "stack" are very arbitrary.

     

    Projects are simply the place where the images are stored - I think of them like rolls of film and tend to create a new one every time I unload a card. The only limit is that you should not have over 10,000 images in one Project. So think of "Projects" as rolls, boxes, events, envelopes - whatever you consider your lowest organizational element. Mine are simply named by date and a hint e.g., 201210 - Trip to Zoo. The real retrieval data is found in the Albums above this. I use a geographic structure - Continent>Country. I don't use dates as Aperture creates Smart Albums by date automatically, so there is no need for me to reproduce this structure.

     

    Stacks are a simply a way to group photos, usually variations of one image. For example, if you are shooting multiple frames per second, you might group each burst of images as one stack. This is simply to avoid cluttering your browser and is not really an oganizational element.

     

    Albums will do what you want. There are two types, Smart and "dumb." Smart albums are really database queries that run automatically. Aperture come pre equipped with several, including most recent years. But you can get very clever with them. For example, I have moved to a mostly referenced master setup, so I have a Smart Album that finds all of my Managed Masters so that I can periodically move them to the referenced drive. Keywords can be very, very powerful here.

     

    You can also simply drag an drop images into Albums. Remember that images in an Album are merely database pointers. That is, they appear in the the Album, like a copy, but any action you take actually affects the original image. (To make real copies, you must create a new "Version.")

     

    Hope this helps.

  • 6. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    So from this I gather I can store all my images for a specific year in a Project and then subdivide the project into different folders for months?

     

    I have noticed that sometimes images don't show up on the right albums if I set a smart album-is there a way to be sure that all images from a particular date range go into a specific folder?  I know they should based on the parameters I've set in the smart album but it's unclear to my why I sometimes have renegade images in the wrong places.

     

    Finally, can I create as many albums as I like with each image or can a single image only be in one album?

     

    Thanks again-this is very helpful!

  • 7. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,840 points)

    Yes you can place all the images for a single year in one project but you would subdivide them with albums not floders.

     

    Folders do not hold images they hold other containers. So you could put folders under the project(s) but you would need albums under the folders for the actual images.

     

    An Example:

     

    Project-2010

         Folder-Months

              Album-jan

              album-feb

              album-march

         folder-Holidays

              album-New Years

              album-Presidents day

         folder-Birthdays

               album-Bob

         folder-Seasons

              folder-Spring

                   album-Flowers

                   album-Holidays

              folder-Summer

                   album-Flowers

                   album-Holidays

                   album-vacations

     

    etc.

     

    It's contrived but you get the general feel.

     

    Images can appear in as many albums as you like there is no restriction.

     

    regards

  • 8. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Thanks, Frank.  Helpful!

     

    One final question: how do I remove a single image from an album?  I know if I hit CMD + delete it goes to the trash; however, I don't want the image in the trash, just out of a specific album.  I don't see a remove command anywhere or an Images in the file menu.

     

    Thanks again!

  • 9. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,840 points)

    The actual command is Remove from Album (I believe the delete key runs that if you select an image in an Album but check, I don;t have access to Aperture right now).

     

    regards

  • 10. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Oh wait, just got it by right clicking image-OK, I will try this organizationa and see how it goes.

     

    Thanks everyone!

  • 11. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    léonie Level 9 Level 9 (51,740 points)

    (I believe the delete key runs that if you select an image in an Album but check, I don;t have access to Aperture right now).

    Yes, it does:

    removefrom.png

    Remove from Album

  • 12. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (23,840 points)

    Just a follow up on the whole project, album, folder thing.

     

    In the scheme I posted above if you are diligent in your keywording then all those albums could be smart albums and the structure will fill itself out.

     

    You could of course have a super-folder Years and place all the year structures into that. Folders are really just an organizational tool a way to group like things together. The advantage of placing complex structures into folders is that you can hide all the underlying complexity and only expose it when you need to. Keeps the library tab a lot cleaner in my opinion.

     

    What I might do is a set-up like this is:

     

    Folder-Years

         Folder-2010

              project-2010

                   folder-Months

                     etc....

         Folder-2011

              project-2011

                   folder-Months

              etc...

     

    Then I could hide the whole multi year structure or only expose a particular year or years.

     

    Folders also work with the Project view. One of the views in project view is to display projects by folder. I use that one a lot.

     

    As to your question about why some of your smart folders don't seem to be working like you expect when you try to fill them using dates; Its really hard to say what is going on without seeing what you are doing. How are you filtering by date? There are a couple of different ways to do it and I've found that some work better in some situations then others.

     

    regards

  • 13. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Yes, I get that option if I right click the image-thanks!

  • 14. Re: Aperture Organization By Year
    lsb Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    So are you saying you would not use Projects as the underlying structure for where each year of photos is kept?

     

    So I take it the choice is:

     

    Project-Years

     

    Project 2012

    folder by month

     

    Project 20122

    folder by month

     

    or the way you structure above? 

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