5 Replies Latest reply: Nov 1, 2012 8:19 AM by MrHoffman
agraeff Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I just got a new school email address through google. Honestly I don't really need the mail account but it would be nice to add it mail. They have specific ports to use to connect to it, and i can't not get out of the automatic account setup in mail. Any ideas?


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  • 1. Re: How do you manually set up email accounts in LION mail 6.2?
    MrHoffman Level 6 Level 6 (12,455 points)

    Add the mail account via Mail.app Preferences > Accounts > + (bottom of the left column) and then enter the receive path (POP or IMAP) and the send path (SMTP) settings.

  • 2. Re: How do you manually set up email accounts in LION mail 6.2?
    agraeff Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That would work, however I need to manually assign my ports, they are not google standard ports. The current mail does it automatically and I can't change it.

  • 3. Re: How do you manually set up email accounts in LION mail 6.2?
    MrHoffman Level 6 Level 6 (12,455 points)

    Out of curiosity, which TCP ports are you working with?  (SMTP, POP and IMAP all have widely-accepted and standardized ports, and this usage long predates the existance of Google.  Deviations from these ports is unusual.)

  • 4. Re: How do you manually set up email accounts in LION mail 6.2?
    agraeff Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Account Type:IMAP; Incoming Server: imap.gmail.com; Incoming Port: 993; Incoming SSL: ON;Outgoing Server: smtp.gmail.com; Outgoing Port: 465; Outgoing SSL: ON (if supported);Authentication: Password (if supported).

     

    I don't know if these are the standard ports...

     

    The issue is this.. From my school's site:" Most email clients will try to auto-setup your account using these settings. This will probably fail as your account is administrated through Google but has an “@myschool.edu” address. "

  • 5. Re: How do you manually set up email accounts in LION mail 6.2?
    MrHoffman Level 6 Level 6 (12,455 points)

    Those are typical and standard ports (well, TCP 465 is deprecated), and that's a fairly typical server settings declaration.  Configure the ports and the servers, and you'll be fine. 

     

    FWIW, if I were manually configuring ports, I might well try TCP 587 in preference to 465, as the Google gmail and Google Apps support pages list that.   Why use TCP 587?  Quoth Wikipedia: "Server administrators choose whether clients use TCP port 25 (SMTP) or port 587 (Submission), as formalized in RFC 6409 (previously RFC 2476), for relaying outbound mail to a mail server. The specifications and many servers support both. Although some servers support port 465 for legacy secure SMTP in violation of the specifications, it is preferable to use standard ports and standard ESMTP commands... according to RFC 3207 if a secure session needs to be used between the client and the server."  Put another way, if given a choice of some combination of TCP 25, TCP 465 and TCP 587 for submissions, use TCP 587.

     

    It's quite common to have different server settings from email settings after all, and this is is what I infer that "issue" sentence is attempting to communicate.

     

    It's also unfortunately common to have IT support folks posting correct (albeit confusing) statements on their various web sites.