9 Replies Latest reply: Nov 3, 2012 1:57 PM by skiphunt
skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

Ok, I bought into all the hype & picked up a 4th gen iPad 32GB wifi today to replace my 16GB iPad 2.


Finally got everything backed up, installed & restored. What I don't get is that I'm really not seeing a huge difference. Yes, the display appears to be a little sharper & color is marginally better. Speed doesn't seem that much faster to me. Maybe slightly, but I'm very underwhelmed at the moment.


Can someone suggest something to try that will clearly illustrate & justify the upgrade from an iPad 2 to iPad 4? Seriously, I'm using them side by side, displaying the same images from each & running the same apps, etc. but am not even close to being "blown away". I picked this up from Bestbuy, so returning the iPad 4 is easy enough... just want to make sure I'm not missing something.


I'm a photographer with a focussed eye on graphic display, and am simply not seeing that much difference here. I'm no novice with regards to photography either:






I don't play games much, but use the iPad on the road for content creation including video work. So far, I'm wondering what the gain was by upgrading to iPad 4?


Running side by side, same apps, looking at same photos... and, I'm pretty underwhelmed initially. I must be missing something, because I don't notice it being that much better. Doesn't feel any faster. Fine text is a bit crisper. Photos have very slightly better color/contrast, but only if you're looking at them side by side with a critical eye.


Unless I discover something I'm missing or don't have set right... Might return it. I really don't care about Siri either. Don't find myself using it on the iPhone 5 either. So far, disappointed in this new iPad. I have to be missing something though, since the reviews keep talking about what an order of magnitude leap ahead the retina screen & A6 processor are. Can't be ALL hype can it?

  • nick101 Level 5 Level 5 (4,690 points)

    The 2 big differences are the Retina display and the graphics processor (there are others, but they're smaller).


    If, to your eyes, there's no major improvement in the Retina display  and you don't play games, then you're probably wise to return it.


    I went from a 1 to a 3 (in other words, the same display change) and I see a massive difference. I also am a phtographer, and I see richer colour o=and more detail.


    Where I see the greates difference, though, is in text, which is much clearer.


    Much of this is in the eye of the beholder

  • Tgara Level 4 Level 4 (3,540 points)

    The upgraded chip in the latest iPad is there mainly to handle the multitude of more pixels in the Retina display.  Under normal use (email, etc), you won't see much of a speed difference.  The exceptions are graphics-intensive applications like photo or video editing, games, etc.


    Not wanting to be harsh here, but didn't you try out the iPad 4 before you bought it?  The way you describe it, it sounds like you made an impulse purchase and are now regretting it.  As Nick said, unless you find the Retina display noticeably better than the display in your previous model, you should probably return it.

  • skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Nick, I can see a difference... Just not "massive" as you describe. My photo galleries are all sized for web delivery, ie only about 900 pixels on the long side, so maybe I'll more difference with higher res images. However, I downloaded & displayed full res images from dpreview.com to display on each iPad & the difference is not drastic. Nor is loading speed any different.

  • skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Tgara, actually I did check them out when the iPad 3 came out. I took my iPad 2 into a Best Buy and played with each for a good half hour. I displayed images on each and even asked the sales clerks if they could see much difference. They couldn't.


    At that point I made the decision to sit the upgrade out. So, I take issue with anyone's claim that I didn't do my research first.


    The reason I upgraded was for better resolution AND speed. But as I sit both iPads next to each other and launch apps at the same time, they're pretty much the same. I also tried a slo-mo app that converts your 720p 60fps footage to extreme slow motion after a long render. Both iPads performed the long render at exactly the same time.


    This isn't buyers remorse of an impulse buy... This is me trying to figure out why I'm going to take a loss after selling my iPad 2 & keeping the iPad 4. I'm not a lemming who just buys crap because its the latest greatest. There must be a significant benefit to justify the upgrade. I'm not seeing enough performance boost to justify the upgrade.


    I posted to see if maybe I'd missed something, or some setting. Perhaps I shouldn't have restored from my iPad 2's backup? Perhaps the speed difference will only be significant with apps written to take advantage of it?


    No problem here. I can easily return the iPad 4 to Best Buy for no loss other than my time, but will play a bit to confirm I'm not missing something.

  • Ralph9430 Level 6 Level 6 (16,150 points)

    If your photo are only 900 pixels on the long side the retina display won't help them look that much better. If you need to keep photos sized that small on the iPad for some reason I'd also put larger files of the same photos to show clients. Use an app like Photo Manager Pro to store full resolution photos on your iPad. That way you can show clients the entire photo or zoom in to show detail areas.

  • skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Ralph, the images are 900pixels for web delivery because I sell my work & don't want to upload my higher res than that.


    I use an app called Minimal Folio that displays high res and lets me zoom in. Will try comparing images on both using that app to see if there's much more difference. I doubt it though, but perhaps Safari and the built in photos app are down sampling for quick viewing?


    I'm not bitter or angry about this purchase. I can still sell my ipad 2 for $300 locally, so going up to an iPad 4 & from 16gb to 32gb is costing me $350. Just not sure I see $350 worth of improvement.

  • nick101 Level 5 Level 5 (4,690 points)

    Fair enough - it's your eyes that matter here, not mine (or anyone else's). There's no point at all in paying out a large amount for no purpose. If the 2 does the job, keep it. I bough a 1 on launch day and ignored the 2, bought a 3 for the horsepower (the display was jam on the bread and butter) and I'll sit out the 4.


    It'll be fascinating to see what the 5 has, wehnerv that is

  • skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Nick, I haven't decided if I'm going to keep it yet. Need to edit some photos, video & try loading some high res images in a pro folio app to see if I can justify keeping it.


    The iPhone 5 I just got seems significantly faster than my iPad 2 & the retina really shines as well. I'm just not seeing that significant a jump with the iPad 4. I'm guessing the larger retina screen is eating up all the extra processing power?


    Also, why does that site whatismyscreenresolution.com reporting my iPad 4 screen is 1024x768?

  • skiphunt Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Here's another reason I was expecting much more. Recently, I upgraded to the iPhone 5. The processing speed is definitely noticable from the iPad2. Doesn't the iPad4 use a processor that's even faster than the iPhone 5? If so, shouldn't I at least be seeing the same speed bump that I'm getting from the iPhone 5 when compared to the iPad2?


    Can anyone recommend a test I can do to at least verify I'm really getting any speed bump at all? Under normal usage... editing a hi-res photo... running an app to render an HD 720p video into ultra slo-mo.. the speeds are mostly similar between the iPad 2 to iPad 4. Does this sound like I have a faulty iPad 4? Or, are the differences between the two units really this subtle?