LTE not available on LTE enabled network in Belgium (Belgacom)

So we have to talk booo and mooo to you .. as you support apple using us customers milked like a stupid cashcow!???

Agree the exclusive partnerships can exist; however don't sell unlocked phones. And when money thrives this exclusive partnership rather than quality .. hmmm :s just asking ..

Perhaps I am now acting like a black sheep 😝

David Doukidis wrote:

Apple today announced that iPhone 5 will support LTE on 36 new networks next week.

You will likely receive a carrier update over-the-air, or prehaps iOS 6.1 will be released.

David; I quote Mister Cook:

"Next week," said Tim Cook, "we're adding 36 more carriers for LTE support. These carriers will be in countries that we are not currently supporting LTE."

so do not count Proximus will be one of these 36 "approved" carriers

poutchi wrote:

Why not??

I cannot see where in that quote you can proove that Proximus is not concerned by this update :-/

Why are you trying to rag his trolling? What's the truth got to do with anything? What good are you?

Looks like iOS 6.1 has been launched, with 4G support for Proximus. However, only for the ipad.

It's just like buying a car and you only are allowed to use the 5th gear, when using gasoil of a cheap gas station, when using gasoil of a gas station like Total you have to buy another car with the same engine, but less options to use a fifth gear.

Excuses, but Apple is disappointing me at the moment.

We got it working on the iPhone. Look on the web for the workarounds. It's really easy if you have a Mac. Not going to post the workaround here because it will be removed. But you can activate LTE on your iPhone 5 with proximus.

Don't the people at Apple realize such things are going to blow up in their faces rather sooner than later?

Anyway, I got LTE on my iPhone working, and I'll be happy to tell fellow iProximussers that the best LTE network in Belgium is now iPhone-compatible for the small price of giving up your MMS (who still uses that thing?) 🙂

Middle finger to Mobistar and Apple. Cheers!

People without smartphones still use MMS. You might still be able to receive their MMSes without the APN settings (can anyone confirm this?), but you'll certainly not be able to send MMSes to them anymore.

For that, we'll have to wait for something that I'm not allowed to discuss here, but which should be released very soon 😝

so Apple; you can censurate this as much as you want;

what you apperently forget is that Early adaptors are complaining; Check your marketing lessons; Those EA's are angels spreading the word!

Now simply thinking what is a couple of hundred complaints .. is acting arrogant!

Worse is that our favorit brand is now heading a direction that we do not like; controlling us like caddle!!

I do agree, and I must say I feel ashamed now that I have been such a loyal Apple-buyer over the last couple of years. It's like a loyal friend you've known for all of these years who stabs you in the back.

I have stopped using iMessage/Facetime/iCloud already a few months ago so that the transition to my next phone will be more fluent.

Yes Apple, I'm not willing to take the risk again. Who knows what you still have in mind to betray us when launching your "unlocked" iPhone 6, 7 and so on.

From now on I'll play it safe and only buy completely unlocked smartphones, although I also bought the unlocked version of this iPhone5. Silly me.

Voor de Nederlandstaligen hier (en ook omdat de kans dan kleiner is dat het verwijderd zal worden): instructies om LTE te activeren voor Proximus, in begrijpbare taal, voor Windows en Mac OS X:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ycfdoe6r76aska/iPhone5ProximusLTE.pdf

What's a little strange is that Apple has now unlocked LTE on both iPad3 en iPad Mini on the Proximus/Belgacom network. However, iPhone5 users remain without access and that's a shame.Does anyone have any idea when the iPhone5 will be unlocked?

I have the same problem in Poland. I bought iPhone 5 directly from Apple and paid instantly full price - however my SIM card is from Polkomtel (Plus) which at this time is the only LTE capable carrier i my country. Unfortunately it is also the only one that has no agreement with Apple, and because of that LTE feature, although technically 100% compatible, is disabled on my phone.

Its a great shame that people who paid full price directly to Apple are now penalize for not using the carrier that is not on "Apple's only right list". I will never understand this approach!

Yes they have, and if they don't allow it, they should at least be honest with their customers! The iPhone5 is sold as an 'unlocked' device, which basically means that Apple has no right to block any carrier. That is the law. But hey, I've been a loyal customer so far, but Apple's arrogance is growing bigger by the minute matter of speach... I don't like their attitude very much.

Dear Apple,

I'm an Apple evangelist in Belgium since the Mac SE30.

I convinced a lot of friends and firms to use Apple products, and supported them.

Today, I feel abandonned. Really.
Proximus, the main and best carrier in Belgium delivers LTE/4G.
But Proximus is not your partner. So you block 4G for the iPhone with Proximus. (but not for the iPad).
Why? Because Mobistar, your partner, is not yet ready wth 4G.

For the first time, I feel that business is far more important than user experience.

For the first time, I don't find reason's anymore to push Apple among my friends.

For the first time, I'm looking for more open solutions.

Well it's taking our friends in Cupertino a long time to open up their iPhone 5 for 'non-partner' networks and enable 4G. I thought this was absolutely legal, not maybe the smartest business practice in the long run, but a possible way of doing business...

Apparently some of you guys are right though and this practice does not seem to be legal within the EU and is now under investigation of the European Commission.

This last paragraph in the link says: 'There are signs that certain technical functions are disabled on certain Apple products in certain EU-member states. If this is confirmed, it probably shows a breach of EU antitrust laws.' according to The Financial Times.

http://webwereld.nl/overheid/77876--ec-onderzoekt-afspraken-apple-met-telco-s-

Well we'll see what happens, my guess is before anything comes from it, the competitive market will probably make our favourite brand act sooner anyway...