6 Replies Latest reply: Nov 13, 2012 8:17 AM by babowa
babowa Level 7 Level 7 (27,670 points)

I finished a project in NTSC and burned it - looks good.  I also need a couple of DVDs for family/friends in Europe, so - instead of having to start over with iMovie (25 fps) and importing all clips, editing, etc, I checked the settings in iDVD in Project Info and saw that I can switch to PAL - has anyone tried that? Or will it not use the correct frame rate since the clips were assembled in NTSC/30 fps? Being able to do that would obviously save me several hours of work....


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  • Bengt Wärleby Level 6 Level 6 (19,450 points)

    Hi

     

    Usually iDVD and/or iMovie can do this - BUT THE RESULT IS VERY BAD

     

    A. from NTSC to PAL - usually no need to do this as most PAL-DVD players and all computers play these as is

     

    B. from PAL to NTSC - usually You must do this as few NTSC-DVD players playback these

     

    I do my movie in a Video-editor set to same frame rate as material was recorded in

    - iMovie HD6 - or

    - FinalCut any version

    - NOT iMovie'08 to 11 - as they all way's known - discard every second line in the picture when going from Event's to Project' - and this can not be mended (at all) (can not handle interlaced SD-Video - and HD doesn't make it any better (but even worser))

     

    Then when material is edited I do

    - Share as full quality QuickTime.mov

    - import this into JES_Deinterlacer (free on Internet) and convert it to NTSC

    (this it does so much better and Pro applications at astronomical costs - fairly noticable better - to no real gain)

     

    Then I import this New QT.mov into a PAL-iDVD project.

    Save as a DiskImage

    Test it to see that all play's well

    Burn it with - Disk Util tool - or Roxio Toast™ (I like)

     

    Yours Bengt W

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (27,670 points)

    A. from NTSC to PAL - usually no need to do this as most PAL-DVD players and all computers play these as is

     

     

    Really? So someone in Germany (no computer, just a DVD player and TV) should be able to watch it? That would be good news!

     

    I tried it last night and opened my NTSC DVD project, changed it to PAL, and let it encode/process/burn a Video_TS folder. Then I burned it with Toast (also set to PAL).

     

    It looked and played perfectly on one DVD player, but on another (cheap) DVD player, all I got was "disk error". I could not find a way to check if iDVD did the conversion and  if the new Video_TS folder contents (or the burned DVD) are 25 fps/PAL or not - is there a way I can see the format?

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (46,765 points)

    Yes, most DVD players sold in Europe will play both PAL and Never-The-Same-Color without a hitch.

     

    Older, or very cheap, DVD players may object!

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (27,670 points)

    Thanks so much - will be burning a couple more and then sending them off......

     

    I had been under the impression that one needed a multi-region (PAL, NTSC, and whatever others there are) DVD player - in fact, I used to have one in Germany along with a multi region TV so I could watch both German TV, German DVDs as well as American DVDs; that was in the 80's and without that equipment, you couldn't watch anything but "local" stuff. So I guess that has changed.....

  • Bengt Wärleby Level 6 Level 6 (19,450 points)

    Hi

     

    I had been under the impression that one needed a multi-region (PAL, NTSC, and whatever others there are) DVD player

     

    You may be - mix two very different entities.

    • TV-System

    • Region Code

     

    TV-System - is number of lines that build up the picture and the refreshment rate - frames per second

    EU = PAL = 625 lines - 25 frames per sec (interlaced as on all DVDs)

    USA = NTSC = 480 lines - 29.97 frames per sec (interlaced as on all DVDs)

     

    Region Code

    EU = 2

    USA = 1

     

    What iDVD always does is Region Code = 0 (can be played on all DVD-players as long as it can handle the TV-System

     

    EU = Most can handle both PAL and NTSC

    USA = Most only can do NTSC

     

    Yours Bengt W

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (27,670 points)

    Ahh, thanks, yes, that explains it - in my case, it was obviously the Region code.

     

    But I also did not know that in the EU, most can handle both PAL and NTSC (but in the US, only NTSC). Learned something new..... dankeschön!