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moved home folder to new drive (data is now copied and not moved?)

i have "repointed" Lion to a new Home Folder on my "data drive" in bay 3 and am running my Lion OS on the disk in bay 1.


when i move data from my Desktop to the Documents folder i am finding that this data is being /copied/ when i would expect it to move.


can anyone explain to me if this is normal procedure and if so why since i always recall in the past that this type of action would result in a move?


thanks.

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), with 64 bit Win7 in Parallel

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM

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Posted on Nov 13, 2012 2:20 PM

Copy is the expected operation if you "move" files between different disks or volumes.

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Nov 13, 2012 3:14 PM in response to Alberto Ravasio

hi alberto. thanks for the input here.


but - i mean - my thinking is that the "data drive" is where my HOME FOLDER resides (i think i did not make this clear in the original post so my apologies)....


i guess what i am saying is that my HOME FOLDER is on this drive and so is my "Desktop" and my "Documents" folders which are listed /under/ the home folder.


so i am not really understanding why if my Home Folder shows what is on my desktop and if am moving items from my desktop to my documents folder why it should consider this a different disk.


this seems like there is some problem or some confusion in the OS to me...


- jon

Nov 13, 2012 6:14 PM in response to Chris CA

hi chris.


yes. i have seen this link. thanks.


i have to check but my recollection is that i got another article from mac advanced tech on this.


does this article explain why one would then have data copied instead of moved when going from the desktop to the documents folder? i mean, i think this is the question i am trying to resolve.


thank you

Nov 14, 2012 3:43 AM in response to Chris CA

hi chris.


thanks very much. i would like to understand this. i will also re-read the article when i get a chance.


this doesn't make any sense to me though, can you help?


i mean, the whole home folder is on my data drive and i am BACKING up my data drive in order to make sure i retain my data. this means i have a whole archival process i am going through and if the data on my desktop (where i happen to store a lot of critical data) is not in this backup in some way i really need to know this.


also (and at the same time) if data is copying on my computer when i would expect it to move (or where i previously had it moving) it would be very helpful to know.


i mean, if i open a finder window and select a folder with 10 GB in it and paste it over the Desktop icon on the data drive (which is in the HOME FOLDER on my data drive - or even if i paste it into the Desktop /alias/ that i created from this folder which resides on my desktop - i cannot see any logical rationale as to why it should COPY.


there is something wrong here in mac os on the machine or there is some kind of anamoly happening when you move your home folder related to the desktop or there is some kind of PERMISSION issue IMHO. i mean, why should the Finder consider the Home Folder on a different drive than the Desktop Folder if both reside in the same folder on the same drive?


TIA

Nov 14, 2012 6:25 AM in response to Alberto Ravasio

ok. many thanks. it would be nice to be able to read these better on my end as well.


i think i simply replaced the HOME FOLDER name, the DATA DRIVE name, the primary boot drive (i think i called this "disk1" and the name of the Boot Camp partition on my primary boot drive.


i guess the r-w-r business relates to permissions that i have when logged in as my normal user? i find it all a little confusing...


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me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ \

me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ diskutil list\

/dev/disk0\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk0\

1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1\

2: Apple_HFS name1 797.0 GB disk0s2\

3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3\

4: Microsoft Basic Data win7_boot_camp_partition 202.3 GB disk0s4\

/dev/disk1\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: GUID_partition_scheme *2.0 TB disk1\

1: EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1\

2: Apple_HFS clone_of_data_drive 2.0 TB disk1s2\

/dev/disk2\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: GUID_partition_scheme *2.0 TB disk2\

1: EFI 209.7 MB disk2s1\

2: Apple_HFS data_drive 2.0 TB disk2s2\

/dev/disk3\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk3\

1: EFI 209.7 MB disk3s1\

2: Apple_HFS OWC 1TB data_drive CLONE 999.9 GB disk3s2\

/dev/disk4\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: GUID_partition_scheme *3.0 TB disk4\

1: EFI 209.7 MB disk4s1\

2: Apple_HFS mac pro data_drive tim... 3.0 TB disk4s2\

/dev/disk5\

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER\

0: CD_partition_scheme *541.7 MB disk5\

1: Apple_partition_scheme 471.7 MB disk5s1\

2: Apple_partition_map 17.9 KB disk5s1s1\

3: Apple_HFS Readiris 129.8 MB disk5s1s2\

me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ pwd\

/Volumes/data_drive/Users/mac_pro\

me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ ls -la /Volumes\

total 56\

drwxrwxrwt@ 15 root admin 510 Nov 14 07:55 .\

drwxr-xr-x+ 35 root wheel 1258 Nov 13 09:23 ..\

drwxrwxr-x 17 mac_pro staff 646 Nov 14 00:30 OWC 1TB data_drive CLONE\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 788 Oct 27 12:33 README.txt\

drwxr-xr-x 9 mac_pro staff 306 Apr 27 2011 Readiris\

lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1 Nov 12 17:50 name1 -> /\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 845 Oct 27 12:33 cgi-bin-2010-11-05-18-26-03.zip\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 510 Oct 27 12:33 clustr_map html.txt\

drwxrwxr-x 22 mac_pro staff 816 Nov 14 02:00 data_drive\

drwxr-xr-x 1 mac_pro staff 12288 Nov 12 23:50 win7_boot_camp_partition\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 16 Oct 27 12:33 htaccess\

drwxrwxr-x 16 mac_pro staff 612 Oct 29 14:01 mac pro data_drive time machine to g drive\

drwxrwxr-x 19 mac_pro staff 714 Nov 14 02:00 clone_of_data_drive\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 1727 Oct 27 12:33 private-2010-11-05-19-02-24.zip\

-rw-r--r-- 1 mac_pro admin 3108 Oct 27 12:33 wp-config.php\

me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ }

Nov 14, 2012 7:23 AM in response to hotwheels22

WOW. How many disks 😀


me-Mac-Pro:~ mac_pro$ pwd


/Volumes/data_drive/Users/mac_pro


This line tells that your home folder is effectively on the Volume (phisical disk /dev/disk2) data_drive

I don't think your problem is related to owner permissions, but the standard Users folder has this form


drwxr-xr-x 7 root admin 238 4 Nov 15:07 Users


The standard user folder has this form


drwxr-xr-x+ 26 alberto staff 884 14 Nov 09:06 alberto

0: group:everyone deny delete

Nov 14, 2012 7:32 AM in response to hotwheels22

Furthermore, if you do


ls -la /Volumes/data_drive/Users/mac_pro


you should see at least


drwxr-xr-x+ 26 alberto staff 884 14 Nov 09:06 .

drwxr-xr-x 7 root admin 238 4 Nov 15:07 ..

drwx------+ 14 alberto staff 476 14 Nov 14:57 Desktop

drwx------+ 19 alberto staff 646 7 Nov 13:51 Documents

drwx------+ 22 alberto staff 748 14 Nov 09:36 Downloads

drwx------@ 55 alberto staff 1870 10 Ott 17:32 Library

drwx------+ 18 alberto staff 612 7 Nov 20:29 Movies

drwx------+ 16 alberto staff 544 16 Lug 23:35 Music

drwx------+ 33 alberto staff 1122 26 Ott 15:42 Pictures

drwxr-xr-x+ 8 alberto staff 272 18 Lug 09:58 Public


that are the standard folders created for every users. Inside those folders there should be your documents

moved home folder to new drive (data is now copied and not moved?)

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