14 Replies Latest reply: Nov 16, 2012 2:39 PM by Russ H
moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

I am having to constantly render when using FCP 6.0.6.  I am using footage from a Canon 5d Mark iii that was converted using MPEG Streamclip and have everything set in the Apple Prores 422 codec.  What am I doing wrong?

  • Studio X Level 7 (27,030 points)

    What am I doing wrong?

     

    Whatever format you converted to is either not a FCP native format or (if it is) your sequence settings are different from the material.

     

    Give us screen shots of the material information and the sequence settings. They should be exactly the same.

     

    x

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Screen shot 2012-11-15 at 2.41.56 PM.jpgScreen shot 2012-11-15 at 2.38.47 PM.jpg

    Do these help?  thank you for any and all help.

  • Studio X Level 7 (27,030 points)

    I don't use mpeg streamclip for conversion. If find things quite solid using Compressor...

     

    Nevertheless, what we need to see is how FCP is seeing the material.

     

    Please post a screen shot of a clip's item properties once imported into FCP.

     

    x

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Screen shot 2012-11-15 at 3.09.46 PM.jpg

     

    Ok here are the Item Properties from one clip.  Is there any way to manage the constant rendering.

    Also THANK YOU!  also, don't hesitate to speak to me like a beginner.  I am truly a beginner.

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Studio X

     

    I have posted the items properties screenshot.  Can you see the discrepancy here? 

     

    Many thanks in advance

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 (10,880 points)

    Well, as a start, your sequence is set to 24P which is 24 frames per second (23.98) Progressive, and your source footage is 29.97 frames per second interlaced.

     

    Do you know what your original footage is, prior to your conversion via MPEG Streamclip?

     

    What do you want the end product frame rate to be?

     

    Open an un-converted clip from the camera in Quicktime, and once it it open, go to the menu Window > Show Movie Inspector. Either report what the movie inspector says, or take a screen shot of the movie inspector and post that here.

     

    MtD

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Below is a source clip BEFORE conversion by MPEG Streamclip:

    Screen shot 2012-11-16 at 1.19.55 PM.jpg

    And this is the info after the conversion: 

    Screen shot 2012-11-16 at 1.25.55 PM.jpg

    it still has the same label, but this is on the harddrive in the file "bauchi streamclipped mov file".

    so FPS havent changed. 

     

    do i need to change my codec?

     

    Kristin

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 (10,880 points)

    In FCP, you need to render when the Source properties do not match the Sequence settings, or when you have applied effects or transitions to the footage that exceed your computers ability to play the sequence back.

     

    In FCP, create a new sequence - File > New > Sequence.

    Once that sequence has been created, edit one of your converted source clips into the empty sequence. FCP should ask if you want the Sequence to match the source clip. Say yes and you should be good to go.

     

    MtD

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    THANK YOU!

     

    questions remaining:

    1.  did it fix the settings for all my sequences, or do I need to move everything on to this new sequence/subsequent such sequences?

     

    2. why didn't it do this in the first place? (i did start by using uncompressed files--perhaps it took the presets from those?)

     

    3. what settings should I be using in the future?  i like that fcp just knows and sets things up correctly.  i would, however, love to know what the settings should be if i continue to use this camera and MPEG Streamclip in the future. 

     

    Thank you so much for your help!!

    Kristin

  • Russ H Level 7 (20,285 points)

    Just to add…for most recent OSX versions (ML not yet included), Canon has a plug-in for FCP that will allow you to Log & Transfer your Mark iii clips.

    Screen shot 2012-11-16 at 5.08.26 PM.png

    Simplies things. No need for Streamclip as long as you keep the camera's card structure intact for ingest.

     

    Russ

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 (10,880 points)

    1) No, it does not affect your existing sequences. You can go back to one of your old, incorrectly set up sequences, click on the timeline and type Command + A to select all the clips there, then click in your new, correct sequence and type Command+V to paste them there.

     

    2) Once you set a sequence up, it will stay that way until you manually change the sequence settings. Any copies of the sequence inherit the same sequence settings.

     

    3) ProRes is an excellent choice for FCP.  If this is not the same format you want to deliver your final product in, then edit in ProRes and then use Compressor to change your finished movie to the delivery format of your choice.

     

    MtD

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, Russ.

    I bought this before starting. 

    we pulled the video off of a hard drive, though. .  so perhaps it was never applied. . .?

    (is that right?)

  • moorehuey Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Meg the Dog!

     

    One more question:

    Is the best preset, post MPEG Streamclip conversion, and given my screenshots above, possibly

     

    Apple ProRes 422 1920x1080 30p 48 kHz  ?

     

    rather than 24p  ?

     

     

    or am I misunderstanding the problem (again)!

     

    Best,

    Kristin

  • Russ H Level 7 (20,285 points)

    moorehuey wrote:

     

    we pulled the video off of a hard drive, though. .  so perhaps it was never applied. . .?

    (is that right?)

    Hard to say, but probably not. If Log & Ttransfer had been used, the files would have been transcoded to an editing codec upon import. But the original h.264 files would still be available.

     

    Russ