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when draging a Pre-Keyed effect into Imovie 11 , picture and picture, it shows as a solid background instead of transparent.

My problem is when draging a pre-keyed effect over a clip in Imovie 11, and dropping it in as Pictire in picture it drops in with the backgound instead of the background being transparent. Before importing the file into the imovie project I did uncheck the opitmize box. If I import the pre-keyed effect into the clip and pick "Green Screen" then the Pre-keyed effect is transparent, but I can not move it into position which is the reason it needs to be droped in as a "picture in picture". Can you help me figure out why "picture in picture" is not droping the effect in as transparent?

Posted on Nov 16, 2012 9:12 AM

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Nov 16, 2012 9:31 AM in response to Ronnie18

Ronnie18 wrote:

… Can you help me figure out why "picture in picture" is not droping the effect in as transparent?

the PiP doesn't support color-key.


if you want it transparent, the inserted clip has to be proRes4444 encoded (only video codec supporting alpha-keys), but I never tried, wether iM supports this 'pro'-codec ...


here a very quick'n dirty test:

a Motion5 ready-made animation, exported as proRes4444

inserted into iM11 as PiP



User uploaded file


so, THIS way, it works 😉

Nov 18, 2012 1:23 AM in response to Ronnie18

Ronnie18 wrote:

… So are you telling me to go to the Motion5 site and download one of their pre-keyed effects? …

no.

I said, the the PiP of iM does not support green-screen - you asked for in your initial request.


what I said, after a test: if the PiP-movie contains alpha-keys/is encoded as proRes4444, then iMovie shows transparencies. to create such a test-file, I used one of my other toys, Motion5. Which can be used as 'effects machine' for iMovie - but has a very steem learning curve/professional tool!


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… and I have no idea, where on http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/motion/ you get the info ....

Ronnie18 wrote:

… I went to the site and saw that I would need to pay for each one …

that's nonsense.


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back to your original question:

What do you like to accomplish, in plain words?

Nov 18, 2012 5:27 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

Karsten mentioned that Motion has a steep learning curve. I hesitate to jump in here, because I have not gone up that learning curve yet. But let me make some assertions that you can take with a grain of salt, or maybe Karsten can confirm or deny.


1) Motion does indeed have advanced compositing and keying capabilities, although probably more people use it for motion graphics. And after removing a key, you could export in ProRes 4444. (I did not know Motion had this capability of keying and compositing. I had to look it up in the manual).

2) However, the ProRes 4444 does not automatically come with Motion. It comes with Final Cut Pro X, so you would need to purchase that as well.

3) If you own Final Cut Pro, you could probably use your pre-keyed effects without the constraints of iMovie. You could place them, mask them, keyframe them, etc. You could do this whether you have Motion or not.


Yours very tentatively (because I don't have first hand experience).

when draging a Pre-Keyed effect into Imovie 11 , picture and picture, it shows as a solid background instead of transparent.

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