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gravity44 Level 1 (5 points)



one hour ago I recieved the very first spam mail on my iCloud account. I didn't publish my address nor did I give it away to someone unknown. I did not recieve any spam mail for years now. Till today.


I deleted the mail after writing down the adresses and stuff from the mail itself and the mail header.


The mail itself was reffered to "", thats not my iCloud address. The mail-header on the other hand showed my real address.


The sender was "Christine Meyer", address "liliulyojfya@zzqmypar.con" (not .com!), and the address for answering was "".


The mail contained two pictures, which I accidentally did allow to load. The mail reffered to some "raspberry pills" for health or something.



Did anyone else get this or a similiar mail? If so, then this could be a sign that our addresses weren't stolen rather than being generated by the spammer. Or that Apple has a problem.



Should I be worried about malware after opening that mail including the pictures which were loaded?


Thank you guys! This scares me.



(Excuse my English. )

OS X Mountain Lion
  • engelsk Level 1 (10 points)

    The same happened to both myself and my parents today. I hadn't had any spam at all in my Dot Mac/MobileMe/iCloud address since getting it in 2003.


    I see it's happened to others today, too:



    I wouldn't worry about the email having loaded in your Mail app. What I want to know is:


    • How has someone managed to get hold of 'private' addresses?
    • How extensively has it been done?
    • Will they now be selling the addresses to other spammers, too?


    It'll be horrible if my address is bombarded with spam from now onwards.

  • gravity44 Level 1 (5 points)

    There's a thread in a German Mac forum and there are several people reporting the same thing.

  • engelsk Level 1 (10 points)

    Also on a Danish Mac forum:



    (In Danish.)


    I'm waiting for the big American Apple sites to pick up on it, and then we can find out what it's about. Hopefully Apple itself might say something, too.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 (75,104 points)

    Several people have reported this - I've had what looks like a version of it myself. I'm afraid spam is a fact of life; email addresses get out, or often get guessed as spammers send out thousands of messages to possible addresses in the hope that some of them will get through. Delete and forget, and I'm afraid you will have to get used to it. Try the Mail junk filter, or SpamSieve.

  • Old Toad Level 10 (135,413 points)

    I've also been getting the Christine Meyer spams.  I forward each, with full headers, to



    I have a macro that brings up the full header, adds the two email addresses and forwards the email. 


    So if you forward these emails to Apple they are pretty good at blocking them.



  • Julian Wright Level 7 (34,860 points)
    How has someone managed to get hold of 'private' addresses?



    There's no such thing as a 'private' address. Even if you don't publish it anywhere doesn't mean it is private. Spammers have the means to randomly generate potentially valid usernames If they send enough of these emails, they are guaranteed to catch quite a few legitimate email addresses.


    Today I have recieved these Christine Meyer emails to two of my addresses - one email and one obscure alias which has never been used. So, either the spammers are very good at guessing, or someone has managed to get hold of an email database.


    In the past it was easy to validate whether a particular username was in use - all they had to do was create a computer script that visited or If the page existed, then the username was valid. Spam ahoy!

  • OPEDinMV Level 1 (0 points)

    I fully disagree with the defeatist attitude that we should get used to spam (& phishing and other email ills) and hope your spam filters direct the message to your spam folder.  Any email that reaches the target, via the spam folder or not, is a win for the spammers.  Apple, Google, ATT, Yahoo and every other ISP provider have been washing their hands of this issue because spam benefits them.  Users need to insist that internet providers appropriately block these messages now and stop believing that spam folders is a good thing.  If I know a spam message is in my spam folder, then the message got through!

  • Julian Wright Level 7 (34,860 points)

    Apple filters spam at the server level, which means you would never know if a spam was filtered out. All major email providers do the same. However, no spam filter is perfect. If a spam filter mistakenly identified an important message as spam and simply deleted it without giving you the ability to retrieve it, I think you'd be complaining even more.


    It's a constant battle between spammers and ISPs. Spammers change their methods to defeat the filters, and ISPs have to analyse then update the filters to cope with the new spam, without affecting legitimate mail.


    You obviously have no idea of how tricky it is to get the balance right.

  • Howard Zhang Level 1 (0 points)

    I'v got this spam last night and I have no idea what am i going to do with it?

    They send me the spam email every one hour through the whole night, which was really annoying.


    I already set up rules in my icloud : add from : christine meyer to junk folder; add subject raspberry to junk;

    but I think it wont work for this guy dont send spam via real email address and he can change this keyword at any time.


    As apple icloud email dont let me find the whole email header, so i dont really have any choice on this problem!


    I think this apple forum should be more aware about it, dont blame eache other, we need to find a way to kick it off.

  • OPEDinMV Level 1 (0 points)

    If Apple would set up their email system so that I can decide (via a preference setting) whether emails "deemed spam" by Apple are either delivered to my Spam inbox or returned "undeliverable" to the sender, then that would eliminate the problem for me and many other folks who find it difficult to believe that we have to accept spamming, phishing, etc as a part of doing everyday business.  If finding the right balance is too tricky for the ISP folks to figure out, then let the individual users draw the line.  We can certainly do it without worrying about offending advertisers.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,925 points)

    OPEDinMV wrote:


    If Apple would set up their email system so that I can decide (via a preference setting) whether emails "deemed spam" by Apple are either delivered to my Spam inbox or returned "undeliverable" to the sender, then that would eliminate the problem

    Spammers rarely use their own email address, they spoof someone else's so when you return the mail as undeliverable you just spam someone else. Why would you do that?

  • Jetlabdog Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm concerned about the images, because I was unable to prevent them from loading. Were they attached to the message or were they loaded off the web with a unique URL so they could verify that they had sent the spam to a active email account?


    I can't seem to find the setting to prevent mail from automatically loading images.

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 (75,104 points)

    This is how it's done in Snow Leopard, probably basically similar in later systems:



  • Jetlabdog Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you! I found it in Mountain Lion. There's so much stuff in there, it was difficutl for me to find quickly.

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