14 Replies Latest reply: Nov 21, 2012 3:48 AM by BDAqua
Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

The drive shows up again on restart, but dissapears again within hours.


PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • a brody Level 9 (65,743 points)

    External hard drives have problems frequently because of power supply issues, or additional devices hooked up on the same Firewire or USB bus as listed on the System Profiler in Apple menu -> About This Mac -> System Info or more Info.

    Internal drives may be a sign of a dying hard drive.  Backup your data regardless.

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    The drive is an internal and was in the upper bay, I changed it to the lower bay, but it still disappears. The Smart report says there is no problem. I have a new drive on order just in case it is on it's way out. When it is mounted it works fine and just as fast as ever.

     

    regards

    Peter

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    Hi Peter,

     

    Open Console in Utilities & see if there are any clues or repeating messages when this happens.

  • a brody Level 9 (65,743 points)

    Is this one of the 2.3, 2.5, or 2.7 Ghz G5s?

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi BDAqua,

     

    I had console open and had run disk utilty on the drive and soon after the drive disappeared again and the console log reads as follows:

     

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 15:23:20 fseventsd[43] event logs in /Volumes/Monkey/.fseventsd out of sync with volume.  destroying old logs. (37710 0 183599)

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 15:23:20 fseventsd[43] log dir: /Volumes/Monkey/.fseventsd getting new uuid: D07B1A5A-36F8-4FBD-B646-6D845CC597B2

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 15:23:20 mds[37] (/Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E 12B9DB)(Error) IndexCI in ContentIndexOpenBulk:Unclean shutdown of /Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E1 2B9DB/live.2.; needs recovery

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:36:08 Disk Utility[1071] Verifying volume “Monkey”

     

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:36:53 Disk Utility[1071] The volume Monkey appears to be OK.

     

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:37:17 Disk Utility[1071] Verify and Repair volume “Monkey”

     

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:38:02 Disk Utility[1071] The volume Monkey appears to be OK.

     

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:45:54 mds[37] (/Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E 12B9DB)(Error) IndexStore in SIStoreDirytySDBChunks:Error storing dirty sdb pages: 22

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:45:54 mds[37] (/Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E 12B9DB)(Error) IndexStore in SIStoreDirytySDBChunks:Error storing dirty sdb pages: 22

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:45:54 mds[37] (/Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E 12B9DB)(Error) IndexStore in SIStoreDirytySDBChunks:Error storing dirty sdb pages: 22

    20/11/2012 20 November 2012 16:45:54 mds[37] (/Volumes/Monkey/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/2566FAA6-1395-4ABF-AD62-AF2B6E 12B9DB)(Error) IndexCI in CIMetaInfoSync:sync err: 22

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi a Brody,

     

    It is a dual processor 2Ghz G5

     

    Regards

    Peter

  • a brody Level 9 (65,743 points)

    OK, well at least that eliminates the liquid cooling problematic G5s from the issue at hand here. Have you installed any system tools such as Onyx, Macaroni, or God forbid Mackeeper? These can cause issues like you have been having.

    If not, it is possible there are issues registering the drives with the CPU bus because of a dying PRAM battery.  When it gets 4 or more years old, the PRAM battery starts dying and peripherals start to misbehave.

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    I have Macaroni installed, but that has been on for years, no Mackeeper nor Onynx.

     

    Regards

    Peter

  • a brody Level 9 (65,743 points)

    Remove it.  Macaroni can trigger sudden failures without warning, because in emptying the system cache it fights the system against itself and risks deleting a cache file as it is being written.  The caches are there to actually speed the system along.  One corrupt cache can ruin your whole day, and in the worst case force an erase and install.

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    It appears to me the drive is having electrical problems instead of mechanial problems that SMART reports.

     

    But as a test I'd add that drive to Spotlight's Privacy Pane/Tab, that is coughing up many of those errors.

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    When I saw spotlight in the log I unticked everything for it to look at, this morning the drive has been up for 1.5 hours so far. I w ill put everything back on in spotlight and add the drive to the privacy pane as you suggest and will let you know what happens. If it does stop the problem is it likely that the drive is on it's way out?

     

    Regards

    Peter

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    Tough to tell Peter, I'd guess Spotlight is 66% the problem, possibly bad files.

  • Peter Weaver Level 1 (0 points)

    Okay, thank you, I will get everything off the disk when the new one comes, just in case. So far the drive has been up for almost 3.5 hours so it looks like it was spotlight causing problems.

     

    Thanks for your help.

     

    Regards

    Peter

  • BDAqua Level 10 (122,252 points)

    Good move copying everything, do let us know how it goes!