why is osx 10.8.2 so slow?

defjamblaster wrote:

hi, i came here for the same problem and downloaded the app you suggested. i dont want to hijack this thread, but i would like you to look at it if you dont mind. how can i arrange that?

Run Etrecheck and post a new question with a description of your symptoms. Include the Etrecheck results. You are more likely to receive responses that way.

After you post that question, you can also reply to this thread with a link to your new question. Thanks!

Here here. My Macbook pro is unacceptably slow, and I'm only running web browsers. I don't even bother trying to open mail.app any more, or the native calendar app. It's really appalling. My question is, how do a do a reinstall of Lion, which I bought from the app store?

And here's my etre data:

Hardware Information:

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

1 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

2 GB RAM

Video Information:

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

Startup Items:

Cocktail - Path: /Library/StartupItems/Cocktail

System Software:

OS X 10.8.2 (12C60) - Uptime: 0 days 0:20

Disk Information:

Hitachi HTS545016B9SA02 disk0 : (160.04 GB)

disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 159.18 GB (37.46 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N

USB Information:

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

FireWire Information:

Kernel Extensions:

com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower Version: 1.5.1

com.silex.driver.sxuptp Version: 1.5.1

Problem System Launch Daemons:

[failed] com.apple.cfprefsd.xpc.daemon.plist

[failed] com.apple.coresymbolicationd.plist

Problem System Launch Agents:

[failed] com.apple.accountsd.plist

[failed] com.apple.AirPlayUIAgent.plist

[failed] com.apple.CalendarAgent.plist

[failed] com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist

[failed] com.apple.tccd.plist

Launch Daemons:

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

[loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist

Launch Agents:

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

[loaded] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist

[loaded] com.flipvideo.FlipShare.AutoRun.plist

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist

[loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist

User Launch Agents:

[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

[failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

User Login Items:

Google Drive

ConnectService

3rd Party Preference Panes:

3ivx MPEG-4

Flash Player

Flip4Mac WMV

Growl

Perian

Internet Plug-ins:

Flash Player.plugin

FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin

googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin

iPhotoPhotocast.plugin

JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin

QuickTime Plugin.plugin

RealPlayer Plugin.plugin

Silverlight.plugin

User Internet Plug-ins:

Move-Media-Player.plugin

Bad Fonts:

None

Top Processes by CPU:

7% WindowServer

5% installd

2% hidd

1% EtreCheck

1% (sh)

1% opendirectoryd

1% ConnectService

1% SystemUIServer

1% Activity

1% activitymonitord

Top Processes by Memory:

88 MB mds

55 MB System

47 MB App

39 MB CCleaner

37 MB SystemUIServer

33 MB CalendarAgent

31 MB WindowServer

27 MB installd

20 MB Console

20 MB Finder

I came upon this thread when looking for an explanation and a solution to the same problem. It all started when my wife upgraded from a 2008 MacBook Pro to a new 13" MacBook Pro Retina in Jan. For compatibility, I upgraded the OS on my mid 2009 MacBook Pro 2.56 from 10.7 to 10.8.

Then we both noticed a dramatic slow down in virtually every action on both machines, from loading applications, to openeing documents, to opening new web sites in Safari. Plus, on my mid 2009 machine, Safari has become very unstable and crashes sometimes 10 to 20 times a day. Nothing that I've tried has helped so I thought that others might be experiencing similar challenges and have uncovered a solution. I guess not yet......... :-(

I have a office full of mac's some 4 years old upto 6 month old all have at least 8GB to 12GB ram core 2 or core i 5 or corei7 cpus and I have the same issue on at least 10 mac's My mac which is the admin mac uses a local account so if there is a problem with network I can still log in. for the last few week It can take around 20 min before my mac will start I log in then it gets half way through showing the icon on top bar and then dose nothing I have to reboot and after a few time of doing that it will boot and work if it show the time in the top bar it's fine and if it stops before the time show I up I need to reboot as it wont make a network connection . and I have at least 10 on my network account lock each day I have to either renable the account or some time the account is enabled but still wont let user log in.

(Over last few years mac's are getting worse bugger with each update Im close to binning 60+ mac's)

If you're having such severe problems with that many Macs, it is something about the setup of all those Macs that is causing the problem. You've got some crap software on all of them or something along those lines.

richparr79 wrote:

Here here. My Macbook pro is unacceptably slow, and I'm only running web browsers. I don't even bother trying to open mail.app any more, or the native calendar app. It's really appalling. My question is, how do a do a reinstall of Lion, which I bought from the app store?

You don't need to reinstall Lion. Just uninstall the following:

Startup Items:

Cocktail - Path: /Library/StartupItems/Cocktail

Kernel Extensions:

com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower Version: 1.5.1

com.silex.driver.sxuptp Version: 1.5.1

And buy some additional RAM.

Thomas beat me to it. I suggest starting your own thread and asking your question there. If you piggy-back on someone else's thread you are not likely to get a good response.

I suggest that you should also download EtreCheck from http://www.etresoft.com/download/EtreCheck.zip, run it, and paste the results in your new thread.

Disclaimer: Although EtreCheck is free, there are other links on my site that could give me some form of compensation, financial or otherwise.

Thomas,

I have the same issue on three different MACs! The boys in MAC OS X Development have dropped the ball and are shipping untested crap! Mac's quality control has gone into the sewer over the past 6 to 9 months. Funny, but Steve Jobs passes away and quality goes with him????

Nonsense. As has already been said multiple times, you have some crap third-party software installed on all three machines, or you're somehow making some other mistake with all three (like trying to run Photoshop and Illustrator on 2 GB of RAM.

You need to do some troubleshooting.

Mountain Lion (and Lion before it) are optimized for future merging with iOS and iPads.

The last stable bug free Mac OS for COMPUTERS was 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, which is fairly free of any iOS contamination (or "features", if you insist) and can run the most programs and is still the most backwards compatible (Rosetta).

There are at least a thousand posts in these forums by people asking how to back up to Snow Leopard. Search out the info and hopefully you have a machine that can run it.

Leslie Bell wrote:

The last stable bug free Mac OS for COMPUTERS was 10.6.8 Snow Leopard,

My three installs of Mountain Lion (and one native install) have been stable and bug free.

Thomas,

I wish it were that simple. It is not. I've cleaned these macs run all the recommendations I have found on various forums and nothing works. It is just bad coding by the OS X development team and a major breakdown in Apple's QA before releasing updates.

If you have been following the news, they are a bit under the gun and have had serious OS X hacks including compromised systems within Apple's private networks! I'm sure some of the latest updates are security patches pushed out quickly to deal with this, but we are all getting the shaft as a result.

Keep in mind the reason that most of us chose the MAC over PC's is we don't have to deal with this kind of BS! This is a regular occurence on Windows and some vendors make a ton of money selling "tune up" utilities for Windows. I haven't found many for the MAC. CleanMyMac is a good tool to clean up disk, but does nothing to track down garbage apps that may be causing issues.

I ran that EtreCheck but don't know how to track down, find, and delete some of its results. i really don't want to have to get down into the UNIX core that sits under OS X via terminal. Nor should I have to if Apple does there job!

I have no idea who you are or why you defend them, but the bottom line is the OS X folks are not doing their job!

rcancill wrote:

Thomas,

I have the same issue on three different MACs!

And I do not, on a lot more than 3 machines, you can rant about or fix the issue, what do you want to do.

Leslie Bell wrote:

Mountain Lion (and Lion before it) are optimized for future merging with iOS and iPads.

The last stable bug free Mac OS for COMPUTERS was 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, which is fairly free of any iOS contamination (or "features", if you insist) and can run the most programs and is still the most backwards compatible (Rosetta).

Many people do not want to be mired in the past, but thanks for the info.