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Solid State Drive in a 2008 iMac

Hi There,


I asked my local Apple ceritifed techician was it possible to install a SSD drive in a 2008 iMac and just run the OS of that drive. My iMac (like most machines that age has slowed down but I can not afford to upgrade) , he said it was and they had to remove the CD tray to accomodate the SSD there. I was delighted to hear that but has anyone here had that done and if so has it improved the perfromace of the machine?


Woudl love to hear if anyone has had that done.


Thanks in advnace.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 1:12 PM

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Posted on Nov 28, 2012 1:17 PM

It will improve disk I/O - loading and saving files. It won't do anything more. If you want faster performance from your computer then buy a newer, faster model.


That your machine is slowing down does not mean you need a faster disk drive nor that your machine is getting old. Computers are not like people. They don't get slower with age. You just need to keep it adequately maintained for the work you do:


Things You Can Do To Keep Your Computer From Slowing Down


If your computer seems to be running slower here are some things you can do:


Boot into Safe Modethen repair your hard drive and permissions:


Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions Pre-Lion


Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.


If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.


Repair the Hard Drive - Lion


Boot from your Lion Recovery HD. When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu. Select Restart from the Apple menu.


Boot to the Recovery HD:


Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.


Restart your computer normally and see if this has helped any. Next do some maintenance:


Suggestions for OS X Maintenance


For situations Disk Utility cannot handle the best third-party utility is Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible.


OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced since Tiger. These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard or Lion and should not be installed.


OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems. For more about malware see Macintosh Virus Guide.


I would also recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX 2.4.3, or Cocktail 5.1.1 that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc.


For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. There is no confirmation that this version also works with Lion.


When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand.


Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


1. Carbon Copy Cloner

2. Data Backup

3. Deja Vu

4. SuperDuper!

5. SyncTwoFolders

6. Synk Pro

7. Synk Standard

8. Tri-Backup


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.


Additional suggestions will be found in Mac maintenance Quick Assist.


Referenced software can be found at CNet Downloads or MacUpdate.


Additional Hints


Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity as free space.


Add more RAM. If your computer has less than 2 GBs of RAM and you are using OS X Leopard or later, then you can do with more RAM. Snow Leopard and Lion work much better with 4 GBs of RAM than their system minimums. The more concurrent applications you tend to use the more RAM you should have.


Always maintain at least 15 GBs or 10% of your hard drive's capacity as free space, whichever is greater. OS X is frequently accessing your hard drive, so providing adequate free space will keep things from slowing down.


Check for applications that may be hogging the CPU:


Open Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder. Select All Processes from the Processes dropdown menu. Click twice on the CPU% column header to display in descending order. If you find a process using a large amount of CPU time, then select the process and click on the Quit icon in the toolbar. Click on the Force Quit button to kill the process. See if that helps. Be sure to note the name of the runaway process so you can track down the cause of the problem.


Often this problem occurs because of a corrupted cache or preferences file or an attempt to write to a corrupted log file.

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Nov 28, 2012 1:17 PM in response to Paul Mcdaid

It will improve disk I/O - loading and saving files. It won't do anything more. If you want faster performance from your computer then buy a newer, faster model.


That your machine is slowing down does not mean you need a faster disk drive nor that your machine is getting old. Computers are not like people. They don't get slower with age. You just need to keep it adequately maintained for the work you do:


Things You Can Do To Keep Your Computer From Slowing Down


If your computer seems to be running slower here are some things you can do:


Boot into Safe Modethen repair your hard drive and permissions:


Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions Pre-Lion


Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.


If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.


Repair the Hard Drive - Lion


Boot from your Lion Recovery HD. When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu. Select Restart from the Apple menu.


Boot to the Recovery HD:


Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.


Restart your computer normally and see if this has helped any. Next do some maintenance:


Suggestions for OS X Maintenance


For situations Disk Utility cannot handle the best third-party utility is Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible.


OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced since Tiger. These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard or Lion and should not be installed.


OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems. For more about malware see Macintosh Virus Guide.


I would also recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX 2.4.3, or Cocktail 5.1.1 that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc.


For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. There is no confirmation that this version also works with Lion.


When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand.


Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


1. Carbon Copy Cloner

2. Data Backup

3. Deja Vu

4. SuperDuper!

5. SyncTwoFolders

6. Synk Pro

7. Synk Standard

8. Tri-Backup


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.


Additional suggestions will be found in Mac maintenance Quick Assist.


Referenced software can be found at CNet Downloads or MacUpdate.


Additional Hints


Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity as free space.


Add more RAM. If your computer has less than 2 GBs of RAM and you are using OS X Leopard or later, then you can do with more RAM. Snow Leopard and Lion work much better with 4 GBs of RAM than their system minimums. The more concurrent applications you tend to use the more RAM you should have.


Always maintain at least 15 GBs or 10% of your hard drive's capacity as free space, whichever is greater. OS X is frequently accessing your hard drive, so providing adequate free space will keep things from slowing down.


Check for applications that may be hogging the CPU:


Open Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder. Select All Processes from the Processes dropdown menu. Click twice on the CPU% column header to display in descending order. If you find a process using a large amount of CPU time, then select the process and click on the Quit icon in the toolbar. Click on the Force Quit button to kill the process. See if that helps. Be sure to note the name of the runaway process so you can track down the cause of the problem.


Often this problem occurs because of a corrupted cache or preferences file or an attempt to write to a corrupted log file.

Nov 28, 2012 4:51 PM in response to Paul Mcdaid

2008 iMac's only have SATA 2 (3Gb/s) connections when ideally SSD's should have 6Gb/s or greater.


Optical drive caddys have caused problems for some, it's a unsupported hardware hack, also you don't want to lose the internal Superdrive, it's needed to install 10.6 or run boot disks like Windows and in some cases install software.


Because a large SSD is quite expensive in larger sizes and overpowered for that machine, as a better match I suggest you upgrade the boot drive to a 500-750GB 7,200 RPM.


Max the RAM out at 6GB (Apple only say 4, but it can handle 6). It likely has 2 slots, so you need 2 -3GB RAM modules.


Install/upgrade RAM or storage drive in Mac's



Next backup just your files to a external storage drive and follow these directions (including the Zero Erase) to install OS X 10.6 on the new drive. The Zero erase proceedure maps off any detectable bad sectors early and improves performance and reliability upon reads.


How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6


Setup with the same named account and Software update fully, then upgrade to whatever OS X version you were using. (10.6 is the fastest BTW)


Next install programs from fresh sources and lastly connect the old drive using a SATA to USB adapter and cherry pick through your files.


Keep the boot drive below 50% filled if possible for best performance.



See this to keep your machine speedy


Why is my computer slow?



A 2008 machine is almost 5 years old, it's on it's last legs with only a few more to go so you really don't want to be spending too much on it.



FYI, I don't use any third party software except Carbon Copy Cloner (backup) and perhaps a OnyX cache cleaning if I suspect a corrutped cache (rare)


Never found a use at all for Disk Warrior, iDefrag, Techtool or any of that crap. 20 years I only had one hard drive just die of mechanical issues, never had a software problem like we get around here.


OS X is reliable, it's the hard drive retaining data on the drive that's unreliable and causes so many people problems, that and not knowing how the machine works.


Know the machine + eliminate bad sectors in advance = peace and speed forever.

Oct 22, 2013 8:15 AM in response to ds store

The two posts above are why I rarely trust forum posts


"2 -3gb ram modules" from a !!! level 7 user !!!


FYI - macs and most other computers only accept modules that double ie 1gb 2gb 4gb 8gb. For 6gb of memory it would be a 4gb and a 2gb, 3gb modules are not currently made for macs or most other computers made or proposed.


and as for ds store


"It will improve disk I/O - loading and saving files. It won't do anything more"


yes and considering that mechanical hard drives I/O, are the major bottleneck on most operating systems perfomance today, they make a huge difference, not much in 3d rendering times or game fps perhaps, but SSD's improve anything which involves storage access, video editing, OS snappyness, music creation, etc. So YES an SSD is almost as vital an upgrade, as is increasing memory, and will give you another couple years if you want to stretch it on intel core 2 duo machines, workload dependant. and at less than $100 its worth it compared to a new machine, especially if you can find a guide for a dual SSD/HD setup.


also if your in lion on a core 2 duo machine, turning off save progam states under


System Preferences>Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps


improves OS snappyness on old intel core 2 duo machines with mechanical disks immensely imo. esp if you dont use or know this feature is being used.

Solid State Drive in a 2008 iMac

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