I just upgraded to iTunes 11 and noticed that iTunes DJ is missing from the Sidebar as well as from the dropdown menu. I used this feature often at my house for parties so iPhone users could have fun suggesting music.
What happened to this feature? Is it still there, but hidden?
Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion
Andrew Davies1 wrote:
Ohhhh Pllllleaaase bring Itunes DJ back
You should tell Apple here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/
This is a really great replacement. It pulls songs from YouTube and lets you easily create shared playlists by creating a "party". Remote users can join the same party and queue up songs. Has the added benefit of video.
Johannes Schut wrote:
This is a really great replacement. It pulls songs from YouTube and lets you easily create shared playlists by creating a "party". Remote users can join the same party and queue up songs. Has the added benefit of video.
IMHO, sir, that isn't a replacement nor is it a subsitute for iTunesDJ. Unless it plays my tracks on my hard drive it doesn't replace iTunesDJ. iTunesDJ does so much more then providing a "remote party", which is a feature that I never used. The feature of iTunesDJ that I use the most, instill do as I will never downgrade to 11 unless the bring back 2 features this being one of them, is random playing of my library my tracks not YouTube's. Nor do I want something that I have to "setup" or "login" or whatever when I have 1TB plus of music on my system. I can set iTunesDJ to play in the background and never touch it for 8 to 10 hours and not have a repeat unless I make it repeat -- no voting no muss no fuss.
George
"I can set iTunesDJ to play in the background and never touch it for 8 to 10 hours and not have a repeat unless I make it repeat -- no voting no muss no fuss."
You can do this in iTunes without iTunesDJ.
Chris CA...you must be a loaner or have never been to an Itunes DJ based party. The voting was the best part. If you have 100 friends at a party and everyone does not want to hear the best Tool song ever (yet...and I am a Tool fan, but it has it place)....you may have to wait. Best way to set the tempo for a party. If it gets "liked" it gets played.
The party DJ app has us 80% of the way back. If it just added the ability for a computer to be the host vs IPAD / Phone...we are back home.
It really is sad the most of the world did not understand how Itunes DJ really worked.....
Oh sorry Chris...saw you were reposting George...read the post George....
For the record, there are 3 capabilities that need to be restored to iTunes:
1. iTunes DJ.
I use it for 2-3 hours EVERY EVENING to enjoy a constantly evolving playback stream from my large audio library. I'm far less concerend about voting rights. I just want the never-repeating serendipitous playback stream - something you DO NOT GET simply by shuffling some playlist into an unsorted but still FIXED and constantly REPEATING sequence.
2. Artwork.
I've gone to a lot of trouble to put quality artwork into the library. I want to be able to see it in the "Now Playing" window, and I want to be able to see Cover Flow (or something equivalent) when working with Playlists. Small thumbnails are NOT sufficient. What was wrong with giving users who don't want Cover Flow (as I myself do not when viewing the entire library) the option of turning it off when it gets in the way?
3.Multiple Windows.
Even though I listen mostly through iTunes DJ, I also put together some meticulously crafted playlists where the particular sequencing of songs is critical. For detailed work with such playlists, it's necessary to be able to open multiple playlists in SEPARATE WINDOWS. It's no different than the need to open multiple Word documents or Excel spreadsheets when working in those apps.
I certainly hope Apple restores this fuctionality one way or the other in the next big revision to iTunes. I've grown extremely weary of the era in which Apple has redefined "innovation" as removing perfectly useful function from its apps and operating systems and labeling the crippled results as "clean" and "streamlined" and so forth. That might work for grandma, but not for serious users.
I couldn't agree more. You are RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
I'm in the music/radio business and I have over 1,000 playlists. Why? Who cares why. I do and want to be able to do what I could before. I refuse to upgrade to version 11. I did originally and discovered all the things missing. Ridiculous. Why take away things that are perfectly good? They want us on the cloud. It's the same reason the iPod sits at 160 gb. There's no reason it couldn't go to 250 or even more as technology improves. I have a LOT of music. In fact, I have everything in my library as pure wave. Since they take up more room, many titles are in higher-res mp3 files. My thinking originally was to burn everything to my computer in .wav, and then be able to convert and update at whatever baud rate I wanted to - whenever I wanted to - thinking that as technology improved, the iPod would support the bigger HDs. Imagine not having the 1TB or 2, 3 or now even 4TB hard-drives? Why iPod is stuck at 160 where its been for years is not a mystery to me; They want us moving everything to the cloud. I don't want to not have all my music with me. Give me a bigger hard drive Apple and quit forcing us to follow in directions that make no sense. Sure, the cloud has advantages. Save your images in case you're too stupid to keep them updated on your computer. Whatever. But come on, bring us an iPod with a bigger HD. Even a iPhone with twice the current max memory (64mb) would only be 128. Not enough room. Even the new Pono Player will support 128 - and will have/has interchangeable memory cards.
Anyway, good comments you had. I completely agree.
mefcc wrote:
For the record, there are 3 capabilities that need to be restored to iTunes:
1. iTunes DJ.
2. Artwork.
3.Multiple Windows.
These 3 items is why I will not downgrade to iTunes 11.x
I too have put a lot of time into artwork -- making sure that every track has the artwork that goes with the album that it is from.
Every Sunday at church where I provide chant for the service I use the "Multiple Windows" feature and at home I usually have the playlist (most of the time iTunes DJ) that I am using in a separate window.
I was very much saddened when I installed iTunes 11 at these features where gone.
I certainly hope Apple restores this fuctionality one way or the other in the next big revision to iTunes. I've grown extremely weary of the era in which Apple has redefined "innovation" as removing perfectly useful function from its apps and operating systems and labeling the crippled results as "clean" and "streamlined" and so forth. That might work for grandma, but not for serious users.
Since the death of Steve Jobs, Apple has not been very "innovative", IMHO. Apple has become like Microsoft by not listening to the end users.
I loved your post as it is my point of view too.
George
William Richards3 wrote:
I couldn't agree more. You are RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
I'm in the music/radio business and I have over 1,000 playlists. Why? Who cares why. I do and want to be able to do what I could before. I refuse to upgrade to version 11. I did originally and discovered all the things missing. Ridiculous. Why take away things that are perfectly good? They want us on the cloud. It's the same reason the iPod sits at 160 gb. There's no reason it couldn't go to 250 or even more as technology improves. I have a LOT of music. In fact, I have everything in my library as pure wave.
I have probably just as much music as you, however, most of mine is 320kb MP3 format. I have it on a local drive and duplicated on a NAS drive. The amount of playlists that have is impressive. I need to set down and come up with a few more but haven't found a round-to-it yet because of time.
The reason that the IPod Classic sits at 160gb is the same reason that iPod Touch sits at 64gb... Apple doesn't think that we the end user needs to have our complete music library with us.
Solid state hard drives here up to a 1tb -- they are still expensive and currently only down to 2.5 inch (not much bigger then the 1.8 inch drives that are in the iPod Classic. And, I have seen for sale from Toshiba 320gb 1.8 hard drives. There isn't any reason why they put such a limited drive space into the current models,
If the market demands higher capacity, which end users are demanding higher capacity but manufactures of devices that using them seem to think that we don't need them.
Love your post...
George
Add onto my reply... I found that there are 1.8 SSD's that can fit into the iPod Classic. One that I read about was 256gb with full use of the extra space.
George
Thank you so much for the kind input.
I'll check that out (bigger drives).
Thanks for your kind words!
Thanks to you both, George and William Richarrds3. You have stated the problem and case well. Apple has basically wrecked itunes for everything I enjoyed about it for all these years. I'm running 10.7 but who knows how long that will last.
This iTunes debacle and downgraded has awakened me to avoid all Apple software updates, especially IOS 7, and Mavericks. I don't know if you have followed the reviews on Mavericks in the app store, but at one point, with thousands of reviewers, they were about split 50/50% one star and 5 stars. the one star reviews sound much like this thread which I have been part of for many months now.
in the meantime, I've bought an Android tablet, and my iPhone contract is up next month. I will not be buying another iPhone after having them since the first one. Android is a much richer, user driven eco-system.
It's very disapointing, and I concur Apple is looking and behaving like Microsoft. And now with all the ISP's clamping bandwidth usage limits on we victim consumers, the idea of "the cloud" as the answer to everything is just not going to happen.
thanks to you two for painting a rich picture of whats wrong with this current era of downgrading the user experience!
After upgrading to iTunes 11 and immediately dumping it to revert to 10.7, I've been biding my time, hoping against hope that Apple might respond to the wave of complaints about the dropped features. Or, more likely, a third-party developer would figure out how to script a replacement for the easy, previewable, editable random glory of iTunes DJ, which I use every day of my life.
I've refused to upgrade to Mavericks, entirely because I'm still using iTunes 10.7 and have no desire to "upgrade." Every week the App Store app bugs me to upgrade, and every week I selectively install any other apps or security updates and ignore iTunes 11-point-whatever.
Now with the announcement of Yosemite, it seems that I'm going to be two full versions behind the current Mac OS. But it won't be the first time that some new "feature" outraged me so much that I passed over an OS upgrade (killing Sherlock for the first version of Spotlight was a deal-breaker for me).
Since I bought my first Mac in 1985, I've been a loyal Apple customer. This iTunes misstep isn't going to drive me away from the Mac or iOS, but it sure bugs me, and I'll stick with 10.7 as long as possible—probably setting up a "music server" (similar to my printer server, running an old version of the OS so I can still print to my Apple LaserWriter 16/1600).
Where is iTunes DJ in iTunes 11?
