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  • joesh2 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I totally agree with one and all, but that 'IS' Apple. Their policy is to change things without announcing them in advance, something that to me seems very strange. After all wouldn't it be 'user friendly' to tell people about your product before you buy/update it, this way you have a choice?

     

    Sadly this means many people are seeking alternatives, something rather negative, to see a company doesn't support it's long time users shows up at some point in it's profits. I also notice - reading here and looking around me - that many other companies are gaining ground on Apple's market place. More people are changing to alternatives due to price/quality issues, and exactly this type of 'finger up to you  buddy' attitude that seems to have become common in Mac in recent years.

     

    On the other hand for all of those who mention losing their album covers, where is your back-up. I would strongly recommend that for every album you buy or upload, you add acopy of the cover to the original folder. This way if there's a mess-up (like this one) then you just open the original folder an drag the artwork back to the album.

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)


    I would strongly recommend that for every album you buy or upload, you add acopy of the cover to the original folder. This way if there's a mess-up (like this one) then you just open the original folder an drag the artwork back to the album.

     

    Yep, I'd recommend exactly the same, only I'd shove them all on to an excellent and FREE DropBox account so they're available anywhere.

     

    Also, Software Update keeps telling me updates are available and bundling iTunes 11 in with other stuff. It is so easy to simply select 'Update All' and undo all the good I've done reverting back to 10.7. So how can I turn off all updates to iTunes at the App Store?

     

    Thanks!

  • iSky777 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well I finally got myself back to iTunes 10.7 and I'm loving life again!!!! Coverflow back in full effect!

     

    Anyone who's upset about this should just revert to 10.7 and move on.

     

    Only thing we can do is submit it to apple support and hope they listen.

     

    I understand the had the lawsuit over Coverflow and lost, but that doesn't mean they can't find a workaround to making something similar that doesn't infringe on OG CF guy's patent. TRY HARDER APPLE!!!

     

    Every single person here complaining should be copy/pasting their post from here, on that apple support form. Let's FLOOD them with complaints.

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

     

    Good luck!

  • joesh2 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi rustyintegrale.

     

    Yes, that goes without saying. One should ALWAYS backup, no matter what computer you're using. There are many options from cloud based to external HD, all are wothwhile doing. I also strongly reccomend that people don't rely too much on Time Machine as it does have a few technical drawbacks which I won't go into here.

  • Trane Francks Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    So how can I turn off all updates to iTunes at the App Store?

     

    Thanks!

     

    I guess that indicates you're using Mountain Lion. If so, there are two steps:

     

    1. In iTunes' Preferences - > General tab, uncheck "Check for new software updates automatically", and;

    2. When presented with an OS software update in App Store, click on More under the description text; hover your cursor over iTunes and then right-click (or Ctrl-click) and click on Hide Update when the menu pops up.

     

    Done. Easy-peasy.

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)


    One should ALWAYS backup, no matter what computer you're using.

     

    Oh, I do, believe me.

     

    Everything bootable and double backed-up to two externals using SuperDuper plus all my media resides on a Drobo which itself is also backed up to an external using Chronosync.

     

    I did also have a Time Machine back up to a Time Capsule but had to resite the TC to get better wireless coverage throughout the house (even with four Airport Expresses). This means I can no longer use it with TM over ethernet (the only practical way with large file changes).

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)


    Done. Easy-peasy.

     

    Excellent Trane! Done. Easy-peasy and thank you!

  • Trane Francks Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    Excellent Trane! Done. Easy-peasy and thank you!

    Glad to be of service, sire!

  • rustyintegrale Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)

    Trane Francks wrote:

     

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    Excellent Trane! Done. Easy-peasy and thank you!

    Glad to be of service, sire!

     

    Trane can you assist me with another issue please?

     

    My main machine is an iMac and that holds my my main iTunes music database. The actual files are on a Drobo. Obviously that database contains all my playlists, smart playlists, play counts and ratings etc. I have also updated this to iTunes 11

     

    Meanwhile I have reverted my laptop to 10.7, reimported all the music files from the Drobo and have them stored on a 750GB secondary drive fitted to my laptop using an OptiBay. I have replaced all my cover art and completely tidied the database so I have no spurious unamed tracks or incomplete titles etc.

     

    Now I have this collection (some 25000 tracks) properly sorted I'd like to move the files to the iMac to replace everything on there apart from the playlists, smart playlists etc. I really want to keep all that historical stuff as it represents almost four years of listening. I don't mind keeping iTunes 11 on the iMac if I have to in order to keep all the data, but I have no sure-fire method of doing this.

     

    Do you have any suggestions please?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Rich

  • Mark Block Level 2 Level 2 (270 points)

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    Now I have this collection (some 25000 tracks) properly sorted I'd like to move the files to the iMac to replace everything on there apart from the playlists, smart playlists etc. I really want to keep all that historical stuff as it represents almost four years of listening. I don't mind keeping iTunes 11 on the iMac if I have to in order to keep all the data, but I have no sure-fire method of doing this.

    That's a question for another thread, but if I might butt in, I think you should use the Consolidate Library function. That's how I moved my media library from one Mac Mini to another, and later from one external drive to a bigger one. Here's the Apple Support document: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1449

  • Trane Francks Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    Trane Francks wrote:

     

    rustyintegrale wrote:

     

    Excellent Trane! Done. Easy-peasy and thank you!

    Glad to be of service, sire!

     

    Trane can you assist me with another issue please?

     

    My main machine is an iMac and that holds my my main iTunes music database. The actual files are on a Drobo. Obviously that database contains all my playlists, smart playlists, play counts and ratings etc. I have also updated this to iTunes 11

     

    Meanwhile I have reverted my laptop to 10.7, reimported all the music files from the Drobo and have them stored on a 750GB secondary drive fitted to my laptop using an OptiBay. I have replaced all my cover art and completely tidied the database so I have no spurious unamed tracks or incomplete titles etc.

     

    Now I have this collection (some 25000 tracks) properly sorted I'd like to move the files to the iMac to replace everything on there apart from the playlists, smart playlists etc. I really want to keep all that historical stuff as it represents almost four years of listening. I don't mind keeping iTunes 11 on the iMac if I have to in order to keep all the data, but I have no sure-fire method of doing this.

     

    Do you have any suggestions please?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Rich

     

    Hmmmm. I'm not sure that I really understand the problem. Downgrading an iTunes version should only lose history relevant for the downgraded releases and maybe some artwork. For example, if you have 11.0.1 and you downgrade to 10.7, you'll lose history for all you've listened to in 11.0.1 and 11.0. Of course, many of us who've downgraded have lost album art along the way. Your playlists and the rest should all survive, though. Downgrading should not involve re-importing your library, etc. You're just restoring your old iTunes database, deleting the new iTunes and reverting to a version that's more comfy.

     

    The library database is housed in your iTunes Library.itl file. When you upgrade, iTunes does the nice thing and backs up its ITL (database) in the Previous iTunes Libraries folder. These are binary files, BUT, the header of the file is readable such that the 18th character describes the iTunes version. So, if you load your Previous ITLs into Aquamacs, Textedit or some other text editor capable of reading large files, you should have little difficulty locating your last 10.7 library.

     

    As has been detailed in this thread by me (and others), you can follow those prescribed steps to downgrade and you'll know which ITL to restore/copy to iTunes Library.itl in your main iTunes root folder. The loss you'll experience, aside from possible artwork, will be listening history and anything you may have added to the library since you upgraded. Figuring out what you've added and where it is can be frustrating. You have my commiserations.

     

    I understand that you may wish to move library files and artwork from one system to another, but that's beyond my experience and Mark has given a good suggestion there.  I guess it's up to you to determine how you may wish to proceed with regard to "simply" reverting to an earlier version of iTunes or consolidating a library from one machine to another.

     

    Cheers. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

  • affenpinscher Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You are right, Trane. That verdict was overturned and Apple retained the right/ability to use cover flow. And as we all know, for a while they continued to do so. I wish I could believe they were forced to remove cover flow from iTunes. That would actually make more sense than Apple randomly removing it by choice.

  • Randomman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Having spent the last few years making sure all my artwork was in place and using coverflow every day, I can't live with V11 and wish to add my pennyworth.

    Apple's argument that they 'beleive no one was using' it needs to be seen in the context that like all customers I still have and use coverflow on my IPod,  my IPhone and to a degree on my Apple TV.

    So I'd like to know if i should switch off updates on those devices as I would have done on iTunes had Apple actually told us a feature was to be removed. 

    All very well telling about the lovely new 'Up next'  but when I run a play list for a party :- I display coverflow full screen on my computer and airplay the music to my AppleTv/Sound system and the guests can see what's on 'now' as big as you like.  This is not a features trade I  value.

    So I decided to suffer the effort of re-building my old version 10  The most painful thing is the V11 upgrade modifies the database files with no regard for backward compatibility and if  you haven't backed up the database files then like me you will have to start from scratch. Install the software, discover all the music, sort out missing artwork and then export playlists from all other devices and import them back into iTunes.

    I'm half way there and I'm still fuming. Bring Back Coverflow now !!  

  • Patrick Weisser Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @RandomMan - There should be a backup copy of your iTunes library in your \Music\Itunes\Previous iTunes Libraries\ folder.  Copy it to \Music\iTunes\ and rename it to iTunes Library.itl  That will restore your library.

     

    I was able to switch back to iTunes 10 without any problems (though no help from Apple support), and I'm very happy to have Cover Flow back.  I really love Apple and have bought into their whole ecosystem.  But I will not be doing anymore upgrades on any of my Apple devices which might make them incompatible with iTunes 10.7.  I Sure hope Apple understands they have made a lot of loyal users very upset with iTunes 11.  They need to bring back the 10.X functionality we all know and love.  Then they should focus on optimizing the program code, not taking out signature features.  I REALLY hope they don't have plans to dumb down OSX like they have iTunes.

  • joesh2 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    In reality it wouldn't be difficult to have (for Apple) two versions of a program, such as iTunes, available. That way users would just decide which version they stay with. I can see that maybe with an iPhone one version is better than the other. But, in reality, that doesn't mean you have to destroy the old version to move forward. 

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