What I would say is that like all softwares iTunes has a certain design and functionality. If you work within those parameters and that structure is functional for you there is no 'corrupting' of the data. If you need to work outside the iTunes design box then maybe or maybe not you will have issues. It is my general impression that problems arise within iTunes when someone's needs and wants exceed the design and functionality of the software. It is just my opinion, my general impression from reading here and elsewhere that many simply don't really know how to use iTunes and so the flaws, problems, shortcomings of iTunes are in the user. Again just my observation and opinion. Over the years I have found iTunes to be one of the most stable and functional tools I have ever used. Perfect, no. Does it have every conceivable feature to meet my needs,no. But, in this case I draw between the lines until I can find something that will out perform it and extend my capabilities to manage and enjoy my library (JRiver for Mac maybe?)
Saki GT wrote:
The list has been growing in the back of my head, but iTunes 11 really brings things into focus...
They fixed the reverse scrolling. It's not a preference switch. I'm glad for that.
They made both the scroll bars and the close and resize buttons smaller so they are now harder to find with the pointer. That really annoys me.
Removing the DVD drives was just stupid. How thin does the iMac need to be. It already had a near zero foot print. Now if you add an external DVD drive, there goes your near zero footprint. Really dumb. I bet someone will introduce an external DVD drive that hangs off the back of the pedestal just for those of us who like to minimize desk space required for our computers. Why does a desktop computer have to be so thin? It's just dumb. My MacBook Air doesn't have a DVD drive, but I can use the one in my 27" iMac to watch DVDs on the Air. I'd be out of luck if I had the lastest iMac.
I'm still mad that the Apple menu is gone. I used Fruit Menu until it no longer worked.
Dashboard widgets! Never use them. If I'm looking at a widget everything else is gone from view. Back in OS 9, widgets were called "desk accessories" and calling up a desk accessory didn't send you to another GUI universe.
[snip] .... Over the years I have found iTunes to be one of the most stable and functional tools I have ever used. Perfect, no. Does it have every conceivable feature to meet my needs,no. But, in this case I draw between the lines until I can find something that will out perform it and extend my capabilities to manage and enjoy my library (JRiver for Mac maybe?)
Over the years, I agree. iTunes on a Mac has been a great piece of software. But this thread is discussing the new release, iTunes 11, which removed several very useful features for no apparent reason. I applaud Apple for getting the 0.1 update out pretty quickly, which addresses some Airplay and Playlist bugs while restoring the Find Duplicates capability. Supposedly the slow search issue was also cured, although I've used the workaround of deselecting "Entire Library" in the Search dropdown. But iTunes 11 is quite simply a less capable local database and music player than it used to be.
And by the way, I don't care about iCloud enhancements because Apple STILL doesn't let me use it with any of my family's compters, which all have over 25,000 songs. Apple seems to be flipping the bird to its most long-term and dedicated iTunes users, who generally have libraries too big for Apple's cloud.
iTunes 11 is a bunch of little tiny band aids that are designed to cover up a monumental wound underneath that never got fixed in previous versions. Just what is it's functionality now? Is it to play music? Sync your devices? Promote Apple's iCloud? Promote Apple's store? Play movies and TV shows? For my needs regarding music, I will say that it does play music. The actual flow of the software in it's ability to do very simple things, things like provide shortcut keys to key aspects of the software, display song orders correctly in the software and on my iOS device do not work correctly. It isn't a matter of opinion about this. The software flat out does things incorrectly, even though these things were simple features that the software did in versions 1-9, and a little bit of 10; they now are simply gone. It is so convoluted with junk and features the average user never uses that it detracts from the basic necessities of being able to organize and display your music. It is a mess.
Having sent in feedback for several problems I have found in the software for two years now, and the same problems exist in every new release of the App, it makes one wonder what the feedback feature is actually designed for on the application. Things just don't seem to get fixed in a very fluid, expedited way. It's like there are thousands of people programming for so many different things that when they try to put it together into one program, it just doesn't work, and nobody knows what they other did. Those are my observations from using this new version, and version 10 for that matter, over the past week. It has been a major hassle to get the app to do the things it used to do, and I am not asking it to do all that much.
To paraphrase, "I don't have a problem, so there is no problem. Therefore, anyone who experiences a problem is too stupid to use it correctly."
Good luck with that.
That's not fair. I would say that 8 out of 10 "bugs" reported on these forums after new software installations are not bugs at all but user-specific problems and operator error. It's also my experience that new installations often require a few preferences to be reset, and that causes immense frustation. And it has been the case for decades that new installations cause existing file problems to suddenly become exposed. Every piece of software in every OS has always had that issue, but it's much less common now than it used to be.
People who have problems should definitely come to this forum and ask for help without others making them feel stupid, but some of the complaints here do not really reflect the usabliity of the software.
That said, I certainly came to this thread to complain and vent. I don't like iTunes 11 because Apple removed features that I used regularly.
iTunes 11 is a bunch of little tiny band aids that are designed to cover up a monumental wound underneath that never got fixed in previous versions. Just what is it's functionality now? Is it to play music? Sync your devices? Promote Apple's iCloud? Promote Apple's store? Play movies and TV shows? ...
That's a great point, and it gets at the real problem Apple has with fixing problems while improving iTunes. Is there a more massive, complex, multi-function -- and perhaps bloated -- piece of software in existence? But what's the alternative? Do we want Apple to break the app down into its component parts? And do we want it dumbed down and simplified some more? I don't. At least I think I don't. Having one app that does so much is great for the consumer -- if Apple does the hard work of keeping all the parts working smoothly together.
Mark Block wrote:
That's not fair. I would say that 8 out of 10 "bugs" reported on these forums after new software installations are not bugs at all but user-specific problems and operator error.
That may have been very true in the past. However, having been in
the Apple ecosystem since 1985, the past year has been starting to
ring some very alarming bells as to the direction Apple quality is going.
Apple had always been my choice because it was better. It has seemingly
however changed to be the choice that is the lesser of all evils and not
being the "cut above" the rest.
I was first devastated by iTunes11. But I've come to find that I have all the configurations that I depended on before. It just took me a while to figure out how to see what I wanted to see again. At first I was blinded by playlists and felt I couldn't get the browswer to show me ALL of my files. FIX: Click on "songs" along the top and then you can work with all your files and view them as you wish by clicking on the columns like in previous days (albums, name, artist, composer, etc.)
The search window was vexing and not coming up with all of the files that I searched for. FIX: In the serch box, hold click for pull down menu and uncheck "SEARCH ENTIRE LIBRARY", as counterintuitive as that is, and then check "ALL" in the filters selection in the same pull down menu.
No album artwork. FIX: Click on the small album icon in the play box uptop and the album will appear on your desk top. You can resize it as you wish and it will stay there and show whatever is playing.
Number of songs, total time play, and GB size all all files doesn't show: FIX: Under VIEW pull down menu click SHOW STATUS BAR.
One plus to the new format is that you can click on Genres and I"m assuming you play by Genre. Also, when looking at your Genres you can see if there are any incosistancies or redundancies in how you have labelled your Genres is you are into making your own Genre names for your music.
This is perhaps the most dissappointing POS that I have experienced in some time, perhaps ever, from Apple. I have a dance studio and literally depend on ITunes and my IPod for my livliihood.
Thank you Porf for the command - option - s information. I could not have figured that one out from the drop down menus. Now I can move playlists to my IPod. With the previous screen, I could not drag a playlist to my IPod since my Ipod was not in the side bar.
If this "update" is a preview of things to come, I may seriously consider going to the "darkside" and explore some PC options.
Is there a way to unload this abyssmal version and re-install 10.7 without running the risk of damaging my current library?
I would appreciate any responses.
Oh, and whomever was the genius who decided the "find duplicates" feature was no longer necessary... dumb move Sparky.
"They fixed the reverse scrolling. It's not a preference switch. I'm glad for that."
Not at all sure what you are talking about here. Lion and Mountain Lion both have the ability to turn off the backward scrolling, and it is indeed in the Mouse Preference Panel. Just click Turn Off Natural Scrolling, or something to that effect.
The backwards scrolling was never a problem with iTunes 11 to my experience.