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  • arandi Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, I've now reverted my itunes to 10.7. It's too bad because I really liked the new iTunes except for the whole shuffle thing. Oh well, unless they bring the feature back I'm sticking with 10.7. Thanks for the help.

  • elbel Level 1 (0 points)

    Having to shuffle from the iPod is not a viable option for my use cases, which are in the car. My husband and I each have iPods loaded with music that we have in our cars. I'll often create playlists that have a variety of related music and then will want to play in shuffled order. I used to do what was described by the OP: shuffle them in iTunes and transfer the shuffled list to the iPod, where it would "stick". The iPods are generally kept locked in our glove compartments, hooked into the cars' stereo systems, so using the iPod interfaces is a no-go — and unfortunately the car's interface is about 8 clicks into an atrocious interface. We don't wnat to be fiddling with the stereo in the car, we just want to click play and hear the music!


    Oh, and when I'm listening to music at work I'll do something similar — grab a bunch of music and hit shuffle. I really miss being able to see the "shuffled" order — I liked seeing what was up next! Now it's all just in the boring no-info list of album-by-artist or whatever.

  • greguva Level 1 (0 points)

    I recommend contacting Apple feedback at The more people complain, the more likely it is that something will be done about it.

  • pm22 Level 1 (5 points)

    Steve, I have been trying to downgrade from 11 to 10.7 for a month and I had given up, but your post has cleared up some things (replacing the PrivateFrameworks) which other threads did not explain. +100 for that. The downgrade went smoother than the earlier ones, but I get the following error when I enter my password to connect to the itunes store: Error 4002 - Could not complete your request. It doesn't seem to be a big problem, but I am now afraid for my iphone! The last efforts to downgrade led to all my apps being wiped off and unable to download anything from the itunes store. Has anyone here experienced this error? thanks to all for your help.

  • Steve Zodiac Level 1 (10 points)

    I don't remember getting this error, so I cannot give a definitive solution myself. Sorry.


    Doing a search on it led me to this thread in the discusssions:



    This seems to relate to a problem with Genius, and there appears to be a solution in post number 5.


    If that doesn't work there look to be a number of related threads listed on the right side; maybe one of those might help?


    Best of luck.


    (I take it that Apple have still not amended iTunes 11 so as to to re-enable the transfer of shuffled playlists then?)

  • pm22 Level 1 (5 points)

    I found the solution (at least fixes my error 4002 issue). It's something to do with folder permissions getting scrambled. Details here:

    Thanks all.

  • pm22 Level 1 (5 points)

    My issues with ver 11 were not with shuffle problems, I don't use that feature. Many other undesirable changes have been made in itunes - the web is full of complaints. Cover flow, search, the way it displays music, etc, etc. No previous Apple software has had so many trying to downgrade. I really hope Apple get the message and fix these issues asap. Else I for one will seriously start looking for alternatives to apple in my life, as I successfully did with microsoft over 15 years ago.

  • kriddirk Level 1 (0 points)

    I am a bit late to realize I just lost my shuffled lists on my iPod Classic. I don't understand the strategy Apple is following with iTunes 11. It just seems all more confused. A playlist on the iPod Classic should be shuffled, otherwise there is not really a need for a playlist. So, Apple ... please, I beg you, don't delete usefull options and please, give us back this feature !!!!!

  • pm22 Level 1 (5 points)

    Me again, in connection with the original issue of problems with the iphone after downgrading itunes 11 to 10.7. I thought all iphone problems were solved, but today I discovered that since the downgrade the calendar on my macbook pro (running 10.6.8 snow leopard) does not sync with the calendar in my iphone 3GS. Everything else syncs without problems - contacts, notes, apps, etc. But calendar entries don't sync both ways. I've tried various things like deleting all ical related files in ~system/library/cache, and other ical related files. I also replaced the CalendarStore framework from the same frameworks directory as the other itunes frameworks. No joy. Haven't found many related threads on the forums - I guess problems AFTER downgrading itunes are not widely reported yet. Does anyone here have any idea what might help solve this issue? Thanks a lot.

  • pm22 Level 1 (5 points)

    Steve, can you provide a link to the other threads that talk about the 'privateframeworks' stuff? Some posters there might be familiar with such errors.

  • Steve Zodiac Level 1 (10 points)

    Do you know, I couldn't for the life of me remember where I'd seen it.


    I had an idea I'd got it from the MacRumors Forums, so I went on there and found that there was indeed a link there... which led back here to Apple Duscussions...


    Here is the thread referred to:-


    I think the post in question is about nine down from the top.


    Incidentally, I can't assist with your calendar syncing problem. The only Apple device I have, other than my MacBook Pro, is my iPod Classic. And that doesn't have any apps on it of course, just my music.

  • phinsup Level 1 (0 points)

    I just ran into this issue, it really ***** because my car forces me to shuffle every time i turn the car off.  This feature was the only way to really have "shuffle" in my car.  I hope they add this back in soon.

  • ealberhasky Level 1 (0 points)

    So I was frustrated with this as well, and I figured out a way to still create a random, shuffled playlist from the main itunes library.


    Once you've restored the traditional sidebar in iTunes 11, click on the plus button at the bottom and click New Smart Playlist.  Once this is open, you will be given the option to create a random playlist according to certain categories/criteria. 


    I found that the easiest way to get a random playlist is to uncheck the Match the Following Rule icon and click the Limit to button and type in the number of random songs you want to have on your playlist.


    This in essence creates a random playlist, and for people like me with over 15,000 songs, it makes it much easier to create a random playlist for my iphone.


    Hope this helps.

  • ejtomlinson Level 1 (0 points)

    I found away around the "no longer can make shuffle playlists" ... kind of.. Set it to "shuffle" setting.

    If you are in an itunes playlist or the library click the minimize window in the top right and hit play.

    Click on the "up next" list icon to the right beside the magnifying search icon.

    It will show you the next 15-20 songs that are up.

    If you select the top one, hold down shift and click the last it will select them all.

    You can then "Copy", then go back and create a new playlist, then "paste" them in. It's a tad cumbersome and irritiating but it solved the problem for me.

  • Steve Zodiac Level 1 (10 points)

    'tad cumbersome and irritating'...?


    That is the understatement of the year!


    That is not what I expect to have to do to make up for the deficiencies of a computer programme.


    I'm sticking with 10.7, which does it for me as it should.

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