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Am I the only one to HATE the new iTunes?!

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  • turingtest2 Level 8 Level 8 (43,955 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 1:23 PM (in response to DrJeff_92677)

    Show duplicates was missing in the very first build of iTunes 11. It was restored in the next but in a different menu postion making it harder to find, particularly if following old advice. iTunes duplicate removal is a specialist topic of mine...

     

    Use Shift > View > Show Exact Duplicate Items as this is normally a more useful selection. You need to manually select all but one of each group to remove. If you have multiple references to the same files then don't send to the recycle bin. Use my DeDuper script if you're not sure or don't want to do it by hand. See this thread for background and please take note of the warning to backup your library before deduping.

     

    (As above, if you don't see the menu bar press ALT to show it temporarily or CTRL+B to keep it displayed)

     

    tt2

  • Keith-g2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 1:38 PM (in response to cargaut)

    @honeycroft

     

    This has gotta be one of many threads that talks about reverting. On windows it's super easy. On the mac it's more complex.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4556975?start=0&tstart=0

    http://osxdaily.com/2011/09/13/delete-itunes-in-mac-os-x-10-7-lion/

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1660?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

     

    I know iLounge.com is a good resource too.

     

    See if those can guide you.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 2:11 PM (in response to mmc2elgin)

    mmc2elgin wrote:

     

    I do back up my stuff to an external drive regularly,which has saved me from permanent data loss on many occasions.BUT reloading all of my Apps can take me over 2 weeks to complete,and thats not an exageration.

    Make a clone, full recovery will take a few hours, not days.

  • uneek777 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 4:13 PM (in response to cargaut)

    i just installed songbird - the most recommended alternative to itunes. it doesn't support multiple windows either. and there is no add-on for mac.

     

    is it such a crazy wish that i want to have separate windows with more than one playlists in order to compare and manage songs by dragging them around?

     

    so for me songbird is NO alternative to itunes. does anyone know of another player/database that can import itunes content and playlists AND allows multiple windows?

     

    i just imagine real life would work like this - i'd have 3 folders, but i could only open one at once, take a sheet out, close the folder, open another folder, put the sheet there, close it again, open the first folder, take out the next sheet, close it, open the second again and put the sheet there. crazy, isn't it?

  • DesertSweeper Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 4:36 PM (in response to cargaut)

    So after 104 pages of mostly ******** it is fairly clear that most of the people who visit these forums just really dont like v11 of iTunes. Yes you can hold down the ALT key and go through hoops to get back some of what you want but hey it's 2013 and people just aren't interested...Take a sober look at global sales trends of Mobile and Tablet devices...Apple's continued arrogance and total lack of interest in how there users feel about their form-over-function technologies will sow their seed of decline - already evidenced in their declining share value and year-on-year sales figures...go on google it!

     

    Apple needs to brave-up and sort this mess out or face the inevitable consequences of ignoring their revenue stream. IBM was considered rock solid in 1990 just before their share value plummeted below 10 U$, and where is the once mighty giant Kodak today? Hello Android...bye bye Apple

     

    OK so this is my edit - they nailed my word "b 1 t c h 1 n g" in the first line - yes it's a really really bad word!

     

    Message was edited by: DesertSweeper

  • Honeycroft Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 4:57 PM (in response to DesertSweeper)

    Great post desertsweeper. Be careful of naughty words though.  I've had a final warning from apple. Although someone (who i despise) pointed they're not responsible for this forum (funny as it came from apple.com).

     

    I use to love apple but a company can soon fall out of flavour by neglecting its customer base. Factor in the fact it's not bringing out any new innovations and even for a company of its stature, market position and wealth it will struggle to maintain its level of growth, sales will take off and no amount of glossy advertising will rectify that.

     

    as the old chinese saying goes "apples are ok but nothing beats a nice pear"

  • Keith-g2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 4:57 PM (in response to cargaut)

    @mmc2elgin

    Several weeks to reload and reconfigure apps on a fresh install of a previously well-established system is fairly typical. No surprise there.

     

    @slsd

    Everyday people are erroneously relying on cloud services to backup and store their data. If big business had their way, there'd be no such thing as a local backup for the little guy. Everything would be owned and managed by the psychotic corporations and their greed. Especially your data. Hiding behind the pretty white cloud in blue sky with a happyface sun. Apple and iTunes are no exceptions, nor are they prominent standouts. It's just a business trend. IMHO not the best one. But we shall see..

     

    @Honeycroft

    If you like Amazon's services so much why not stick with them?  Avoid iTunes for now and re-evaluate it in 6-month's time. If problems are going to be fixed they'll be fixed by then I'd imagine. That's sort of what I'm doing now anyways. I'm buying music elsewhere, but still using older iTunes to manage my ipods and playlists.

     

    I'm too  stubborn to give up certain things, but I don't mind learning new things from time to time. The Amazon music store is something I now use a little more now. And I tend to keep a whole mess of playlists for gaming, evening cruises, meditation, background ambience. And  itunes9 fits the bill for managing my music. I'm probably too old-school when come to tech. But I don't give a rat's ahhss what anyone else thinks.

     

    @Uneek777

    These types of changes in user interface design are more prevalent today. Seems some companies think multiple windows are too complex for the average user. Understanding a file system is taboo material to be taught in graduate school or something, not to the ordinary everyday user. So where does this leave desk jockeys? ..that's right, having to adapt to a dumbed down simple tablet interface. It *****, and if I was running the show I'd rarely delete features. I'd push them to the back to make room up-front for new features. But I wouldn't axe them completely.

     

    I don't know much about MediaMonkey or MusicBee. I have no idea if they're any easier and do multiple windows. You'd have to check them out yourself and see. But yeh Songbird isn't multi-windowed.

     

    @DesertSweeper

    Yeh I guess that rings true. I'll never display any serious brand loyalty to any corporation. They are faceless entities that don't listen to customers. Enjoy their products. And when you can't anymore - go elsewhere.

  • ejrinwitaj Calculating status...
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    Apr 29, 2013 9:46 PM (in response to cargaut)

    You know, I am 50/50 on the new iTunes design. There are ways to make it look like the older veersion, just look through the VIEW Options or Prefrences. AND REALLY....I barely use it anymore since Im usually on music blog sites listening to free and new music. Hint to the iTunes design team, get itunes UPDATED with music bloggers. Stop worrying about sales point of view for a minute and make this user friendly. SoundCloud, MixCloud, Spotify, iHeart, Pandoram Hype Machine.... I mean I could go for a while naming all this other software and websites that are SO much more user friendly. And when I say friendly I dont refer to free stuff. Im simply saying they make it so much easier then iTunes does. So forget the style or skin of iTunes and start discovering BETTER music and video options out there, while Apple thinks about it.

  • uneek777 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 12:07 AM (in response to Keith-g2)

    thanks, @keith-g2!

     

    i guess for veteran users it's not easy to just use another program. i am a mac user since 1989. i am a photographer and dj, have a huge photo and music collection and spent so much money and time on itunes (and iphoto, too). in iphoto i made a good experience with a feature change though - i was complaining about duplicating files when editing a photo in an external program (i.e. photoshop). and they changed it back! probably the users had all their hard disks growing and enough people were complaining. or one of the engineers was a photographer, too.

     

    i sent at least 10 feedbacks to apple directly for IT11, asking them to bring back the key features they have killed.

    - multiple windows

    - genius sidebar

    - power search

    - cover flow

     

    maybe they could do it like web developers: create different UIs for different needs (touch screen, desktops, phones etc.).

     

    i really love macs and iphones, i have a long-year relationship to this brand BECAUSE of their userfriendly UI, and now...? i used to be a fan, but with itunes 11 i start looking for a major change of all my equipment, private and my companym which is not easy with 25 yrs of experience. i worked in an IT engineering company for 15 yrs and have experienced lots of miserable politics that killed the trust of customers and staff. unfortunately greed follows success, and now this seems to be the case with apple as well... i am just disappointed that apple gives a 5h1t on the loyalty of their customer base and probably they forgot why they were successful originally!

  • PeteQuince Calculating status...
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    Apr 30, 2013 1:59 PM (in response to cargaut)

    If Apple had taken a poll early last year, they probably would have found that the three things people most liked about iTunes were the cover flow view, the Genius sidebar, and power search. Thank goodness they got rid of all three of them.

     

    iTunes has gotten so bad that when I want to listen to music, I've started looking for an mp3 file through the Finder, and just hitting the spacebar. No waiting, no red tape. It reminds me of what using iTunes felt like ten years ago.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 2:07 PM (in response to PeteQuince)

    PeteQuince wrote:

     

    If Apple had taken a poll early last year, they probably would have found that the three things people most liked about iTunes were the cover flow view, the Genius sidebar, and power search.

    Power Search yes, the other 2? I am happy they are gone.

     

    As for the Poll, it would depend on who was polled wouldn't it.

  • barryb2655 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 2:38 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1, I'm sure yesterday you said you liked the Cover Flow?? I also think you said you could do without it, but that's a lot different from "I am happy they are gone".

     

    The above posts are right; Power Search, Genius Sidebar, Cover Flow and Multiple Windows, not to mention the Show Duplicates function, were all great features, now goooooooone. In their place we've got ummmmmmm, ahhhhhh, oh yeah, ummmmm, missing music, ahhhhhhh, missing album art, ummmm all sorts of other random happenings such as deleted track numbers re-appearing, album titles changing, play counts zeroing, all great new features for sure.      

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 2:46 PM (in response to barryb2655)

    barryb2655 wrote:

     

    Csound1, I'm sure yesterday you said you liked the Cover Flow?? I also think you said you could do without it, but that's a lot different from "I am happy they are gone".

    I'm happy that Genius is less functional, as for Cover Flow I did use it sometimes, but I have not missed it, so more accurately I am neutral about one and happy about one. I neither like or dislike the UI, it does what I need and it never was stylish to begin with. So overall iTunes 11 is better than acceptable, less than perfect.

     

    Show Duplicates has not been removed so that's fine and I have not experienced any of the glitches you mention, that's on 3 Macs.

  • PeteQuince Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 3:00 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    As for the Poll, it would depend on who was polled wouldn't it.

     

    Unlike all those other polls, where you get the same results no matter whom you ask? That's a weird point to make.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)
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    Apr 30, 2013 3:03 PM (in response to PeteQuince)

    Unless the sample is very large it is unwise to draw large conclusions from it. The sample size used so far in this thread is 1400 posts (not posters), not very large. And this is a support site for users with problems, what do you expect here?

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