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  • spencer1181 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Itunes 11 sufferer wrote:

     

    When I try to open Itunes i get a window that comes up. It is as folows; The file "i TunesLibrary.itl" cannot be read because it was created by a newer version of itunes.

    Okay that is actually good news, If that is all you did then do the following: (This is an updated repost from Page 2 of this thread)

     

    First I want to reiterate my WARNING:

     

    By attempting to follow the procedures that I used... you acknowledge that if there are any purchases lost during the downgrade you take sole responsibility... I took the risk because I have my music on CD's, I regularly backup my apps to CD... and if I lose anything I will replace it myself (even if I have to repurchase it)

     

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    When your trying to restore your previous Library w/Playlists, You will Need to: (Or your getting the error listed above)

     


    1."Delete" the "iTunes Library.itl" In your Library Folder.
    --->(Located: C:/Users/**user name**/My Music/iTunes)

    2. Go to the "Previous iTunes Libraries" folder
    --->(Located: in the iTunes folder mentioned above)

     

    3. In your instance you will "Right-click" the File named "itunes Library yyyy-mm-dd.itl" and Select "COPY" (This will basicaly be the file that is dated to just before your upgrade)

     

    ***Leaving everything else alone...***

     

     

    4. Go back to the iTunes Folder

    --->(where you deleted the "iTunes Library.itl" file)

     

    5. In the iTunes folder, "Right -Click" in on an empty spot and select "Paste"

     

    6. Now there should now be a new file in the iTunes folder named "itunes Library yyyy-mm-dd.itl"

     

    7. All you need to do now is to rename that file (That you just "Pasted")
    ------>From: "iTunes Library 2012-10-18.itl"

     

    ------>To:      "iTunes Library.itl"

     

    (Basically just deleting the Date)

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    Again I would only reccomend someone that feels confortable with following these dirrections to actually perform them... in your words "computer tekki"

     

    Hope this helps

     

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  • Itunes 11 sufferer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    THANK YOU spencer 1181! I just did it, all is good again! To anyone else that may have given the same directions, the way he gave it just seemed to click to me. Hope this will help anyone else who has this issue. Now I can go to AFG. and take my music with me. It makes it much easier to travel long convoy's with music that I like.

     

    How do I give out points for helping me?

  • spencer1181 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Itunes 11 sufferer wrote:

     

    THANK YOU spencer 1181! I

     

    How do I give out points for helping me?

    There should be a little box with a star in it you can click that says "This helped me" If you click it, then I get 5 points. LOL (It is at the bottom of each post... Almost covered up on my long explanation posts )

  • AIB01 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have been soldiering on with iTunes 11 simply because I couldn't see how to rid myself of it. I did download the last v10 and managed to remove 11 and reinstall the older version. However I then ran into the library being saved in a new version issue. The trouble is I've probably added about 300 songs and have been messing about with playlists etc. when I had a bit of time over Christmas. Is there anyway to just resave the latest library to an older version or convert to an older version?

  • spencer1181 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    AIB01 wrote:

     

    The trouble is I've probably added about 300 songs and have been messing about with playlists etc. when I had a bit of time over Christmas. Is there anyway to just resave the latest library to an older version or convert to an older version?

    Im not sure, but I want to say No.

     

    and since I never got 11 to work on my PC (Win-8) I never had the oportunity to creat playlists or add songs ...  I dont think I am qualified to fully answer the question.

  • spencer1181 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

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    IF you only want the familiar appear of iTunes 11 to be the same as 10 Try this:

     

    when in iTunes 11 try this:

     

    Ctrl B to turn on Top Menu

    View > Show Sidebar to put left hand sidebar back (as per itunes 10)

    View > Snow Status Bar to put gray bar at bottom of Ap where song length is displayed

    In Search Click on the black arrow to untick Search Entire Library

     

    These simple steps make it more like itunes 10 and you can do what you need to do in the usual way

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    I would only Recomend the downgrade now if there are specific things that itunes will not do anymore

     

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    Here is the Direct link to the solution for if your iTunes 11 crashes upon opening (which was my ORIGINAL issue, that was not resolved the first day, and why I downgraded in the fist place (although I think iTunes already corrected this issue:  Re: iTunes 11 crashes when opening the store - no error message by gn_id

     

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  • JayBrown9 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    AIB01:

    "I have been soldiering on with iTunes 11 simply because I couldn't see how to rid myself of it. I did download the last v10 and managed to remove 11 and reinstall the older version. However I then ran into the library being saved in a new version issue. The trouble is I've probably added about 300 songs and have been messing about with playlists etc. when I had a bit of time over Christmas. Is there anyway to just resave the latest library to an older version or convert to an older version?"

     

    You might try this work around, before you delete your new library in iTunes 11 saved it as a playlist, there should be a feature in the new iTunes to do this you might have to look around a bit. First selete all of your songs including old and newly added in the currently new library and save it as a playlist, label the playlist something you can remember and save it say in your local music folder. Also go to any newly created playlists you may have made of those new songs or artists save those as playlists as well within the same local music folder.

     

    Now follow the instructions given previously to downgrade to iTunes version 10.xxxx . Replace your music library to the old previous back up library that existed in iTunes 10.xxxx, and now add in those newely created playlists by using the import playlist feature within iTunes 10. Do a restart of iTunes 10 and see it if loads properly, if it does so correctly you might be able to also load back your new library with both old and new songs added as well next, do a restart of iTunes and see if everything is back as was but under iTunes 10.xxxx.

  • AIB01 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for your help. I'm not that computer savi so paranoid about losing everything! All of my music is in one playlist or another. I tried to export one by way of a trial and it gave me a number of file format options which other than .txt meant nothing to me so I suspect they may all be text files and therefore not deliver what I want when I import back? For some reason it won't let me export to a memory stick either?

  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)

    Perhaps this set of instructions will be clearer...

     

    To roll back to iTunes 10.7 first download a copy of the 32 bit installer or 64 bit installeras appropriate, uninstall iTunes and suppporting software, i.e. Apple Application Support & Apple Mobile Device Support. Reboot. Restore the pre-upgrade version of your library database as per the diagram below, then install iTunes 10.7.

     

    RestorePrevious.png

     

    See iTunes Folder Watch for a tool to scan the media folder and catch up with any changes made since the backup file was created.

     

    Rating, playlists, playcounts etc. are all stored in the .itl file. You can always make your backup copies before any major update in case you want to roll back.  You should also backup regularly.

     

    tt2

  • Deborah Desmone Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)

    Hey, all,

     

    I tried turingtest2's instructions for the .itl file without rolling back to iTunes 7 and my playlists have all reappeared. I house my Library on an external hard drive and for some reason my apps and purchased books always get sent to the computer's iTunes folder instead of the designated place set in Preferences; in other words I have stuff in two places.

     

    So afterwards, I chose File>Library>Organize Library, and checked Consolidate files to try to gather them all back into iTunes.  I may end up with a slew of duplications but I'll cross that bridge, etc. For now I've got my playlists back and they have stuff in them! Hurrah!

     

    A few things, like movie, music vid and book files, (especially epubs), I had to go and locate and get them back into iTunes; and since the .itl is an older file,  some metadata-- like ratings and even titles and authors-- that sort of thing, showed up in the playlists, with an ! next to them. But I believe that's because I deleted them on purpose, like, a week ago but the replacement .itl file doesn't reflect that action. I'll just have to sort thru it carefully. However, I am of the strong opinion that no media file was tossed, it's just that iTunes neglected to grab it to put it in.

     

    Also when putting things back into iTunes, I used File>Add to Library, so that iTunes can organize it in a way that makes sense to it. 

     

    The way I see if, if I end up creating duplicates in iTunes, I can delete them from iTunes, and I won't have to go around and find every folder that houses every one of those duplicates. When I tell iTunes to toss it in the trash that should take care of them.

     

    But you can bet your sweet bippy that I won't be emptying the trash for quite some time, till this is sorted.

     

    "What did you learn?", (asked Stewie)   NO updates until version .5 for ANY software, forever!

  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)

    Apps in the iTunes folder instead of the media folder is a sign of a library initially created before iTunes 9 that hasn't been upgraded to the new layout. Use File > Library > Organize Library > Rearrange files in the folder <Media Folder>, then consolidate. Ideally I'd recommend you get your library all hooked up on the external drive. See Make a split library portable for details.

     

    tt2

  • cl_ellison Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm stuck with the same issue. The latest date I have in my "Previous iTunes Libraries" folder is 2012-12-04, and I've added hundreds of songs and a couple of new playlists since I first installed iTunes 11.  I've tried to be patient and work with iTunes 11, but I really miss having cover flow and the album artwork preview at the bottom left of the screen. I could work much more efficiently with previous versions of iTunes. So I'm going to try JayBrown9's suggestion of exporting/importing the playlists and see what happens. I'll update with the results as soon as I can. If anyone else knows of a better way, please let me and AIB01 know!

  • AIB01 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    cl-ellison, I posted a thread on this and this guy sorted me. Everything back to V10 now including V11 library. Like you I tried to live with it but tryu as I might I couldn't see the benefits for the pit-falls.https://discussions.apple.com/message/20985517#20985517

  • MorganJNZ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thankyou for this. Worked perfectly.

     

    iTunes 11 was a no go for me because of the Up Next feature.

     

    I have used the the old DJ for years, and it is much better than its replacement. Much more flexible. My favourite thing about it is that you can set it to a live play list, and it plays forever. Yet you can still add to it and reorder it as you wish, and see it all like a normal play list, rather than in a silly and barely useable drop down list with little functionality.

     

    So, i am very glad the downgrade was so easy.

  • spencer1181 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    AIB01 wrote:

     

    cl-ellison, I posted a thread on this and this guy sorted me. Everything back to V10 now including V11 library. Like you I tried to live with it but tryu as I might I couldn't see the benefits for the pit-falls.https://discussions.apple.com/message/20985517#20985517

    Thank you for posting the link to this Discussion.

     

    Since I DID NOT get iTunes 11 to work, so I had no experience with the playlists created with the newer version of iTunes.

     

    I am adding the link here that was in the above mentioned post (shared by: polydorus )

     

    That link is: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1451 (This link describes how to create/recreate a replacement "iTunes Library.itl" file from your "iTunes Library.xml" file via the "import playlist" in iTunes...)

     

    That way if you have used iTunes 11 for a period of time, this will/should allow you to keep the playlists created since the upgrade to 11 (but able to downgrade to 10...)

     

    I would strongly recomend reading those discussions before taking on the task of changing any file on your PC. I refer you to my original warning that I posted on my original post of this thread

     

     

    Thank you again... and again I don't have the time to answer questions, and the last few questions were ones I couldn't help with, SO again thank you AIB01 for sharing the link to that thread, I learned something new