FCE-HD export settings for slideshow

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oldpiefke Author

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FCE-HD export settings for slideshow

Hey dear specialists,

I need to have a help for the export settings for a slideshow

I am using FCE-HD 4.01 on either MacBookPro with Mountain Lion or on my old G5 with 10.6

Input are slides in JPEG with 15MByte Pixel.

As soon as I am using transition of a picture the result in export in all setting I can choose from FCE, which I found out is very bad, because picture has the interlacing effects at the borders

What can I change to get a good result

Thanks in advance for the feedbacks

Best regards

FJ

N.b.: screenshot abstract >>>> see right hand video lines

PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 7:51 AM

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Russ H

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Dec 2, 2012 5:43 PM in response to oldpiefke

What is your easy setup? In another of your threads, I suggested a 720p sequence.

Russ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 3, 2012 9:44 AM in response to Russ H

Hey dear Russ,

thanks for the feedback

I will answer also to David.

I have tried all your suggestions ( using tiff or PGN or PSD format) it does not change the export result

When you are talking about easy setup? you mean the export set-up, correct? Here I have tried 720 as well as 1080, but still those unstable edges

Do you run still picture in you FCE projects and make some transitions with it and what is the result

I am running crazy, not finding a solution.

I have bought already the software FOTOMAGICO, which is very good export result, but has two big missing point : no online view of transition, non visible video transition on the timeline, so is hard to get AUDIO snchronization and has not free transition programming features. ANd those three things I like in FCE

Any further help or question from your side would make me happy

Thanks

Best ergards

FJ

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Russ H

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Dec 3, 2012 10:00 AM in response to oldpiefke

My projects have been generally been done in FCP7 and are typically 720P Pro Res. But I have done slide show projects in FCE using the AIC codec in 720P sequences and they have gone well.

Yes, you use 720P HDV-AIC Easy Setup. Export using Quick Time Movie (NOT QT Conversion). Your raggedy edges look like interlacing. Using a progressive sequence should eliminate it.

Also, your project will go a lot easier if you reduce the size of your stills to no more than 2X the resolution of your sequence (1440 px).

Good luck.

Russ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 3, 2012 11:44 AM in response to Russ H

Hey Russ,

thanks for the quick feedback

Attached you see the result, when using the set-up like proposed

I copied you the information of the used picture. Perhaps you are indicating something, what I do wrong

Best regards and THX

FJ

This picture showing a screenshot during the transition

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Russ H

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Dec 3, 2012 1:47 PM in response to oldpiefke

Not exactly what we were after. Did you create a new sequence after changing the Easy Set-up? Please control click on the sequence icon in the browser, choose Item Properties and post a screen shot.

Once your image problem is solved we still need to overcome one obstacle. I completely overlooked the info that said your location is Germany.

FCE doesn't have a PAL version of 720P. So we end up with a frmae rate of 29.97 instead of 25.

You should be able to covert the frame rate either at export using QT conversion or by converting in MPEG Streamclip.

Good luck.

Russ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 3, 2012 3:49 PM in response to Russ H

Hey Russ,

the video rate of the object does not change when I manipulate on the easy setting

If I import pictures, I do this directly from pircture folder into the BIN, and that should be independently from video input setting

The frame rate should also not be a problem for me here in Germany, because working directly from MAC to flatscreen

I put you a screenshot of the new sequence

The Mov output looks not that bad, even if one looks into detail see picture attached, the steps between one and next frame creates problems

I try also to send you the latest version of a slide transiltion example in iPhone quality ( this can not be attached ) it is a 2MB file. If you like I send you by email.

looks a bit improved vs the morning, but I do not feel confident.

What do you think?

Best regards and will come back tomorrow

FJ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 3, 2012 3:55 PM in response to Russ H

Have forgotten to add the screenshots of the starting point of the transition and the end position

That gives you an overview, what I am looking for

see you

FJ

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Russ H

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Dec 3, 2012 6:56 PM in response to oldpiefke

Ok. Glad the frame rate can be ignored.

We're actually still not in the progressive sequence I think we need to be in for best image quality.

In the Easy Setups list, choose 720P hdv-Apple Intermediate Codec.

Then start a new sequence.

I think the main problrm is the interlaced sequence. If the ssequence is progressive, that is good, and the field dominance should be NONE/

Try that, Thanks.

Russ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 4, 2012 5:28 AM in response to Russ H

Hey Russ,

I have done some further steps of improvement by chossing the sequence setup like mentioned above

What still strikes me, that I do not find an entry to look on the other parameters you are adressing, like e.g. field dominance.

Would be great, if you can give me a hint, where to find it in FCE

In any case already by now a big hand for your support

I will keep you posted on my next results. Currently machine is busy with rendering

:-))

FJ

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Russ H

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Dec 4, 2012 5:54 AM in response to oldpiefke

Happy to hear that you're making process.

Here is a screenshot of the test project I've been referring to. It is an expanded view of the browser, which I got from scrolling to the right. Notice that I have two sequences. One is 720P and the field dominance is NONE; ie, it's a progressive sequence. The other sequence is DV NTSC and its field dominance is LOWER; it is an interlaced sequence.

BTW, my version of FCE is 3.5 and there are some differences between the way it works and the way 4.0 works. But I think those differences are mainly that v4 has improved importing as well as more flexibility in setting up Timelines. I doubt the Browsers are any different.

Russ

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 4, 2012 6:53 AM in response to Russ H

Great

I will have a look, when rendering is finished

Looking on the time, it seems, that you have 24h days :-))

Will come back - see you

FJ

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Russ H

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Dec 4, 2012 9:53 AM in response to oldpiefke

oldpiefke wrote:

Looking on the time, it seems, that you have 24h days :-))

Traveling…multple time zones.😕

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oldpiefke Author

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Dec 4, 2012 10:36 AM in response to Russ H

Hey Russ,

will most probably become Thursday, that you will get a feedback from me

Need to resinstall Mountain Lion, because Aperture3 - FCE and Mountainlion do not play together.

Aperture crashed

**** happens

Apple told me now to installe FinalCutPro. Any experience with it from your side vs FCE?

Good luck for you and chat to you on Thursday

FJ

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Russ H

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Dec 4, 2012 10:38 AM in response to oldpiefke

oldpiefke wrote:

Apple told me now to installe FinalCutPro. Any experience with it from your side vs FCE?

You're installing FCP X?

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Russ H

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Dec 4, 2012 10:46 AM in response to oldpiefke

If it's X (the latest version), it's very, very different than FCE…it's fast and very interesting to work with but X comes with a learning curve,

On the other hand, if it's legacy FCP you're considering, it would be an easy transition. As a matter of fact, it's much easier than FCE if only because it requires fewer work-arounds.

Russ

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