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iTunes 11 - Gapless Albums not working

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Kingsley Bruce Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Dec 6, 2012 7:19 PM

I have some "gapless" albums in my Library. This should mean that when playing the album back, no pause or gap should be heard between each track on these albums. Apparently iTunes 11 identifies gapless albums, and dissables "Crossfade Songs" for these albums automatically (if it is enabled). iTunes should then string all the tracks on the album together to create on long performance, with no gaps (unless the recording itself has some quiet moments).

 

In iTunes 11, I have found for my gapless albums, there is a gap (no sound) after one track finishes and the next one starts. Also, I have found the option to turn on or off gapless album no longer exists - apparently it never did turn gapless on or off anyway, see this URI

 

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/music-audio-podcasting/290496-itunes-11-gapless -album-artwork.html


I switched off "Crossfade Songs" under "Playback Preferences" in iTunes Preferences, and then restarted iTunes. This made no difference, so I switched it back on again and restarted iTunes. Still, no difference - there are gaps.

 

Perhaps Apple should consider an option to "Enable" / "Dissable" / "Default" (Apple chooses the appropriate setting) gapless behaviour for each album, and let the listener decide and override if desired.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), 27 inch 2.8 GHz core i7 8 GB RAM
  • CallMeBenGeorge Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 6, 2012 9:13 PM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    Or perhaps Apple should just restore Gapless playback until they can figure out a way to flawlessly handle gapless albums.

  • woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,690 points)
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    Dec 7, 2012 3:01 AM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    The problem is the "new improved iTunes" has been designed

    by young kids that have been brought up in and live in a

    "sound byte" world.  They don't have the attention span to

    listen to a musical work with many songs leading onto another.

    Too busy texting between and during music playback!

  • kingsley.bruce Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 9, 2012 11:34 PM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    I have just listened to "Dark Side of The Moon" by Pink Floyd using the "Albums" tab, and then again from the "Artists", "Genres" and "Songs" tabs. This album plays as a gapless album. This particular album plays gaplessly, however some other gapless albums in my collection don't.

     

    It should be a simple thing to to . . .

     

    • Put a checkbox into the Information Window for a track that says "Part of a Gapless Album"
    • If the current and following track both have this checkbox set - don't put a gap between the tracks, and don't crossfade them either

     

    That makes it very simple and intuitive, doesn't it. Does anybody agree? If you choose to put the tracks in a playlist out of order, and then play them - then you will get something possibly a little wrong. So be carefull to select all the tracks or the sequence of tracks you would like and drag them into the playlist so they are in order.

     

    Does this make sense?

  • CallMeBenGeorge Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 24, 2012 12:33 PM (in response to kingsley.bruce)

    Of course! It makes perfect sense. It is in fact the solution that was available for years before iTunes 11 came along.

     

    To its credit, in my experience so far, iTunes 11 has little difficulty playing gapless albums that were purchased through the iTunes Store. Unfortunately, the ones it does not seem to be able to handle are the ones I ripped from CD's, which have been in my Library for years. Long ago I made the change you described to the songs that need to be played as part of a gapless album, and I haven't thought about the overall listening experience since then - I've just listened to my music.

     

    The clear solution now, not surprisingly, is to subscribe to iTunes Match. It's no different than changing a perfectly good plug or something in order to force someone to buy an adapter. I think it's sad that Apple does this type of thing.

  • EntusDictus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 6, 2013 6:27 AM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    Very disappointing thing. Gapless albums are one of the most important things in my library, so please repair this thing Apple!!

  • designaholic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 8, 2013 2:25 AM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    Just noticed this today, a fair amount of my music is mixed and now if the albums are separated into tracks, there is a pause in between. Really *****, sort it out asap : /

     

    Sidenote: why the f**k doesn't spell checking work in these forums?

  • designaholic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 8, 2013 2:42 AM (in response to designaholic)

    Just checked a few more of my old FabricLive mixed albums – some work gaplessly, some don't. There is no indication why, they all have exactly the same credentials/settings.

     

    Clearly, the option to 'reanalyse' or explicitly assign as 'gapless' is what is required here. It seems much of the gapless information has been lost from my library when upgrading to the new iTunes.

     

  • rogerfromsilverado Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 5, 2013 3:57 PM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    Removing the gapless album feature ranks as one of the DUMBEST MOVES APPLE HAS EVER DONE!!

  • prowler1971 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 18, 2013 10:26 AM (in response to designaholic)

    designaholic wrote:

     

    Sidenote: why the f**k doesn't spell checking work in these forums?

     

    Spell checking is typically a function of your browser. But the forum itself has its own spell check function. You have to hit it manually, perhaps it overrides the browser.

  • prowler1971 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 18, 2013 10:30 AM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    I can no longer find the option to designate someting as Gapless, but I recently ripped a new live CD into iTunes and it appears to not have gaps between tracks. Perhaps it's getting that information when it downloads the information about the album from the Internet. I also imported these as MP3 and not ACC and I wonder if that makes a difference.

  • randynchicago Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 5, 2013 2:09 PM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    I just got off the phone with Apple support....

     

    They have eliminated gapless playback of albums, so now EVERY song on a mixed DJ set or Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (or millions of other albums) - each track will have a 1 second gap between them.  COmpletely ruining the way the album was meant to be listened to.

     

    They reverse-engineered and went back to crappy playback like Android and Windows OS phones USED to do.  Doesn't make much sense does it? 

     

    I repaeat - do NOT upgrade to iTunes 11, you will be severely disappointed.

     

    For those that have already upgraded and lost gapless playback, submit a Feedback request and demand for gapless playback to be brought back into iTunes ASAP!!!  FIll out the form here:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

  • prowler1971 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 12, 2013 5:51 AM (in response to randynchicago)

    I gave feedback, but I also have to say that I haven't really noticed a problem with live albums. I think they only took away the ability to select whether or not an album is gapless, not whether or not it is. IE: If you download a live album from the iTunes store, it may play gapless. I might be wrong.

     

    The problem does come with they've miscategorized something as not being gapless when it should be and we can't change it. I hope they add this flag back.

     

    Are you also saying Google's Play Music doesn't do gapless? It lacks a lot of features that iTunes has, I use it on my phone and I'm nearly always playing random tracks. I'll submit some feedback to Google to see if we can get an enhancement in there. Remember that Play is much younger than iTunes. Much like Apple Maps was an utter failure when compared to Google Maps.

  • turingtest2 Level 8 Level 8 (44,125 points)
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    Apr 29, 2013 12:20 PM (in response to prowler1971)

    I'm listening to a gapless album now, playing gaplessly. I believe a redundant option has simply been removed. iTunes assumes two consecutive tracks are meant to play seamlessly and will attempt to do just that (despite the shortcomings of mp3 in regard to gapless support). Marking something as gapless wasn't ever able to remove gaps that existed on the source disc.

     

    tt2

  • Texas1975 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 4, 2013 1:02 PM (in response to Kingsley Bruce)

    Have you tried selecting all the tracks on the album prior to import and then clicking on "Join CD tracks" under the options menu.  This article explains more

    http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/join-cd-tracks-option-not-app earing-in-itunes-11/

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