Safari and OGG

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waynelovitt Author

Level 1

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Safari and OGG

Hello world !!!

How do I get Apple´s devices and Safari to play OGG audio ?

I paid a fortune of money for devices that are unusable without

OGG support.

Internet told me that there might be plugins for that, but

how do I install these plugins ?

Problem devices :

MacBook Air

iPad iOS5.1.1

iPhone 4, iOS6.0.1

iPhone 4S, iOS6.0.1

Safari 5.1.7 (PC)

The PC tries to download the OGG files, Apple device just do nothing.

What are my options ?

Develop my website with other codecs and hope that Apple will never do an

update again ?

Pay a shitload of money for commercial MP3 licenses for my software ?

Ask billions of website owners not to use OGG on there websites, because I

use Apple hardware ?

Is there any hope for the future ?

Please help !

Posted on Dec 7, 2012 3:15 AM

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Answer 1

Klaus1

Level 9

52,749 points

Dec 7, 2012 9:17 AM in response to waynelovitt

Does Apple know about web standards ?

Because of a simple paradox: Safari adheres to web standards more than any other browser. Many websites do not. Some browsers, Firefox is one, are more tolerant of sloppy standards (a legacy from the unsecure yet commonly used Internet Explorer).

As it says in this document:

http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/

"Safari complies with standards, but not all browsers do. This article explains how to design, modify and validate your website so that it can be rendered and read properly by all major browsers."

Try this: after you have logged into a problem page, open another tab or window with http://validator.w3.org/ and paste in the URL of that page, which will reveal any noncompliance with standards.

The web masters also need to read this:

"Safari is one of the most standards-compliant browsers ever built. Thus, your best bet for ensuring your pages render properly in Safari — today’s version and beyond — is to follow web standards. For a great overview of web standards, check out Mozilla.org’s article Using Web Standards in Your Web Pages."

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages

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Answer 2

tzbikowski

Level 4

1,952 points

Dec 7, 2012 3:21 AM in response to waynelovitt

Did you try to install Chorome on Mac?
Chrome is supposed to support OGG files.

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Answer 3

waynelovitt Author

Level 1

8 points

Dec 7, 2012 4:01 AM in response to tzbikowski

Chrome works fine, so do Opera, FireFox, and on PC Opera and Konqueror...

On iPad Mercury, Terra, 360 and Opera open Safari when OGG files are opened and

fail with an error.

What about Mac users visiting my site? Shall I tell them to install an armada of updates to

be able to see, what is shown ?

I may use .wav for a maximum compatibility of audio, but an 8 track song with 3 minutes length

will be about 250 MB, Apple mobile users will be totally amused about that.

Older projects have shown that IE is a piece of s***, but it just has been overtaken by safari.

Does Apple know about web standards ? If not, that should take a look at Amaya.

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Answer 4

tzbikowski

Level 4

1,952 points

Dec 7, 2012 4:08 AM in response to waynelovitt

well, this forum is just for Apple product users, like yourself, helping each other. You can vent your frustration here but it will not get you far.

filling this: http://www.apple.com/feedback/

may do.

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Answer 5

waynelovitt Author

Level 1

8 points

Dec 7, 2012 5:57 AM in response to tzbikowski

Thanks for now.

I will try the feedback.

Think feedback is something like a wast dump, where

things go and will never be mentioned again.

Didn´t ever get a reply from feedback.

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Answer 6

Linc Davis

Level 10

209,541 points

Dec 7, 2012 9:10 AM in response to waynelovitt

What are my options ?

Develop a website using the cross-platform HTML5 standard, which is natively supported by all modern browsers and can deliver any kind of content. Forget about ever seeing "Ogg" support in Safari, with or without a plugin.

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Answer 7

Nov 4, 2014 2:26 PM in response to Klaus1

You could also go to html5test.com and see that Chrome and Opera lead the pack in support for features dictated by the W3C, with Safari lagging far behind. Sure, they support “sloppy standards”, but what does that even mean?

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Answer 8

Nov 4, 2014 2:37 PM in response to waynelovitt

If the developers of the OGG standard cared enough about their Safari user base they would make a plugin that actually worked. The only one I found that purported to work was Perian, a QuickTime extension that does not take effect in Safari. Apple is not obligated to support standards that few people are even familiar with.

WAV is a good format to use. It’s unlicensed and has no patent, and it’s supported by QuickTime. It may be quite large, but at least it works. Try it!

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