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SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

About keyboard support, I have 2 iPads (generation 1 and 2) and I still am unable to use it daily for work because of the lack of language support on the keyboard layout. That standard keyboard on iOS is fine for messaging but not for any article writing, since you need to have full character support.

Recently, on advice from a friend I bought the EasyKEYKeyboard app from the iTunes Store and it shows that a pratical full language keyboard is possible on a touch screen device such as the iPad. Unfortunately the app is a word processor on its own and does not bring that keyboard to the rest of the system. As a word processor is buggy and unreliable (no Save and it crashes, making you loose everything you wrote... Scary, never used it again).

Why doesn't Apple understand that iPad will only be used worldwide for serious work unless you bring full language keyboard support?

 

I can believe that millions of non-english users will feel the same...


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), English System
  • 1. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    JimHdk Level 7 Level 7 (23,635 points)

    Only other users are here. Send your suggestion to Apple at: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

  • 2. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    Diavonex Level 9 Level 9 (62,745 points)

    Settings>General>International>Keyboard>Add new keyboard>Portuguese

  • 3. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Thats what I have and every other user will have.

    Its not a full keyboard.

    Good for messaging like in the iPhone.

    Useless for serious writing since it does not show the standard keyboard layout with all the characters.

     

    I have already understood that this a problem that no English user will ever understand because they have never seen another language keyboard. Also I believe Apple is not sensible to the problem, otherwise it would have been solved a long time ago - after all, they did chinese and other languages...

     

    JimHdk:

    My question is about any other solutions like EasyKEY that shows that it is possible to write an app that enables you to have another system wide keyboard on iOS...

  • 4. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    JimHdk Level 7 Level 7 (23,635 points)

    There are only users here. Apple does not read these forums. No one here can answer questions that start out with, "Why doesn't Apple understand that...".

     

    Provide your suggestion with details on why the current Portuguese keyboard isn't adequate to Apple at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

     

    Note that, due to iOS security sandboxing, that it isn't possible to write an App which provides a system-wide keyboard.

  • 5. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,700 points)

    SilvaLazarus wrote:

     

    That standard keyboard on iOS is fine for messaging but not for any article writing, since you need to have full character support.

     

    You seem to be unaware of the standard iOS system for creating accented characters.  It is to hold down the key for the base letter and then to select from the popup menu that appears the version that you want.  You do not even need to activate the Portuguese keyboard for this, English will work fine.  But the Portuguese keyboard will give you Portuguese spellcheck and autocorrect.

     

    The iPad has been enormously successful worldwide with a huge volume of sales, and a large number of languages supported in the OS interface, the keyboard, and the autocorrect system, which you can see listed in the tech specs.

     

    http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

     

    If you find the screen keyboard too cumbersome for serious work, you can use a bluetooth hardware keyboard.

  • 6. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Thanks JimHdk

     

    I have already sent the suggestion to Apple obviously...

     

    "Note that, due to iOS security sandboxing, that it isn't possible to write an App which provides a system-wide keyboard."

    I was affraid of that...

  • 7. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Hi Tom

     

    "You seem to be unaware of the standard iOS system for creating accented characters".

    I am fully aware and it doesn't work.

    It takes forever to wait for the character to appear by holding the letter... I type fast without looking at the keys, like I believe everyone that writes...

     

    "The iPad has been enormously successful worldwide..."

    Yes it has. I bought two iPads.

    That doesnt mean you cannot make it work better and language issues are key.

     

    "If you find the screen keyboard too cumbersome for serious work, you can use a bluetooth hardware keyboard."

    I already do. Its the only way so far...

    Its sad nevertheless that you are able to make a proper keyboard with chinese or arabic characters and not a keyboard with latin characters such as Portuguese...

    That EasyKEY app clearly shows its possible to do better.

    But as JimHdk pointed out, it seems that it is impossible for another developer to create a proper keyboard working system-wide.

    Sad really, because this is major issue...

  • 8. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,700 points)

    SilvaLazarus wrote:

     

    Its sad nevertheless that you are able to make a proper keyboard with chinese or arabic characters and not a keyboard with latin characters such as Portuguese...

     

    Nonsense. The Arabic keyboard uses the same system, there are various characters where you have to hold down the key and select something from the popup menu.    Chinese has thousands of characters so special systems are always required to generate them using a small number of keys.

     

    I think you greatly overestimate the importance of this issue, and the chances of Apple doing what you want are extremely small.  So it may be best to move to a different device where they have the kind of screen keyboards that meet your particular needs.

  • 9. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Thank you for the clarification on Arabic and Chinese keyboards.

    So that means that those users are also not happy.

    I do not "overstimate the importance" of this issue.

    Its because I know this to be a serious issue that I am looking and working actively on finding a solution.

    I will not look at another device.

    I already have a MacBook Pro (my fourth MacBook by the way) thank you.

    Hopefully your view does not represent Apple's view since I (still) believe Apple to be a company that understands the needs of their users - english or not.

     

    I restate my point.

    Since an external app like EasyKEY shows that it is possible to have proper language keyboard support on the touch screen, I am hoping that this will be available system-wide on iOS.

    My question goes to anyone interested in the same.

  • 10. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,700 points)

    SilvaLazarus wrote:

     

    I know this to be a serious issue

     

    I would just suggest that you be realistic, since Apple's view of the seriousness of the issue will be heavily influenced by the fact that there are over 185,000 discussions in this forum and you are the only one raising it.

  • 11. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,700 points)

    Apple encourages raising of these types of issues, as it helps all users in countries such as yours. I suggest you to contact Apple Support in your country and discuss with them - at the very least, your question will be logged so that Apple can gauge the need for any changes, etc.

     

    Good luck and thanks for bring this up

  • 12. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    SilvaLazarus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Hi K T

     

    Thank for your polite reply.

    I wonder sometimes why other people reply to this threads if they have nothing helpfull to bring.

    On the topic of Apple Support I have obviously sent suggestions to Apple before but I never thought of contacting them. There is no Apple in Portugal so I wonder about where the support will come.

    By I will try it.

    Thank you.

  • 13. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (71,700 points)

    SilvaLazarus wrote:

     

    I bought the EasyKEYKeyboard app... is buggy and unreliable (no Save and it crashes, making you loose everything you wrote... Scary, never used it again).

     

    A different app with similar capabilities you may wish to try to see if it works better is

     

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/international-keyboard/id447329953?mt=8

  • 14. Re: Portuguese Keyboard Support on iOS
    K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,700 points)

    Good luck

     

    Please update this thread if you learn something that may help others with a similar question.

     

    Ken

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