Why can't the IMEI number be blocked worldwide after Iphone stolen?

Why cant the IMEI number be blocked worldwide after an Iphone has been stolen ?.

My Daughter had her new Iphone 5 stolen in the UK and several week later she recived a massage that "your Iphone has been found" when we logged on the find my phone was showniong the phone was in Islamabad!.


I contacted Apple and asked why they could not block the IMEI as the techology was there .

This would send a massage around the world that stealing an iphone would be useless and they could not be used again .

iPhone 5, iOS 6.0.1

Posted on Dec 11, 2012 1:07 AM

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Jun 11, 2015 10:58 AM in response to basilfromst. leonards

Not to mention as well that Activation Lock has been available for Apple device owners since September of 2013, when iOS 7 came out. if your going to post a criticism in an old thread, at least make sure your information is up to date.


Find My iPhone Activation Lock - Apple Support


There is also now a universal blacklist database in effect in the USA, for a couple of years nowm. That database is now also shared by most or all Canadian carriers as well as several carriers in Mexico.

Dec 11, 2012 3:47 AM in response to lancs-lad

lancs-lad wrote:


Why cant the IMEI number be blocked worldwide after an Iphone has been stolen ?.

My Daughter had her new Iphone 5 stolen in the UK and several week later she recived a massage that "your Iphone has been found" when we logged on the find my phone was showniong the phone was in Islamabad!.


I contacted Apple and asked why they could not block the IMEI as the techology was there .

This would send a massage around the world that stealing an iphone would be useless and they could not be used again .


Apple cannot block a device from connecting to a network as they do not own the networks, thus have no legal right to say who can or cannot connect to any given carriers network. That is something that only the carriers can do, and it would require all of the world wide cellular network providers to cooperate. Given that any one country cannot get all their carriers to cooperate on even a national IMEI blocked database, it is inconceivable that such a global level of cooperative effort would ever happen.


There is no technological reasons why it could not be done though - you just need every carrier to get onboard with the idea and work together to establish an international database of confirmed lost or stolen numbers.

Dec 11, 2012 6:58 AM in response to lancs-lad

KiltedTim, " Apple is NOT a law enforcement agency. There would be numerous legal problems with Apple blocking "stolen" or "lost" phones from operating". give my one reason why Apple would have a problem when the phone has been stolen !,

Samsung HTC etc are not Apple!, Apple are way ahead of the other companies and should set an example.

If I buy a BMW and it gets stolen, BMW can, and do immobilize the car anywhere in the world they are "not an enforcement agency" but they do look after their customers.

Apple could do the same with my Daughters stolen phone but then again they would lose sales as less phones would get stolen and then need replacing !.

Dec 11, 2012 6:32 AM in response to lancs-lad

Apple is NOT a law enforcement agency. There would be numerous legal problems with Apple blocking "stolen" or "lost" phones from operating. Samsung, HTC, Motorola... the list goes on. NONE of them will do it.


As for th carriers blocking them, that would require worldwide cooperation between ALL carriers. That's about as likely as monkeys flying out of my ****.

Dec 11, 2012 6:33 AM in response to lancs-lad

Dear Michael Black,


Re "Apple cannot block a device from connecting to a network as they do not own the networks, thus have no legal right to say who can or cannot connect to any given carriers network".

You seem to be missing the point!, the Iphone the "person" is connecting to a network ( irrespective who owns the network) IS STOLEN !, hence we the customers of Apple are looking to Apple for help !.

Dec 11, 2012 7:12 AM in response to lancs-lad

Apple need to wake up . Once upon a time, Nokia thought they were top dog and no company could touch them , they were soon knocked off their perch .

We pay a top premium for Apple products but slowly customers are looking elsewhere for similar products i.e. my Daughter is a Cambridge University and she has found the Samsung Galaxy note 10.1 is more user friendly and more suited to her needs in class that an I pad !.

Dec 11, 2012 7:18 AM in response to lancs-lad

ive my one reason why Apple would have a problem when the phone has been stolen !


How would Apple know with certainty that the iPhone has indeed been stolen? Unless the report came from an authorized law enforcement agency, Apple can have no such assurances. And if law enforcement does contact Apple on a matter of stolen property, Apple will cooperate with them. Few police departments, however, have the time to pursue such research for a single lost or stolen cellphone and hence only in rare circumstances, such as in the case of a threat to safety (a kidnapped child, for instance) or a theft ring will they take the initiative to contact a manufacturer for assistance.


if I buy a BMW and it gets stolen, BMW can, and do immobilize the car anywhere in the world they are "not an enforcement agency" but they do look after their customers.


I can find no evidence that BMW actually disables a car, they seem only track it, and then only if you 1) subscribe to the service, an extra cost option and 2) have filed a police report. And even then the service is, from all reports, quite easily disabled. So it's of little more value than Apple's Find My iPhone service, which is available to all iPhone ownsers at no extra charge.


As to the blocking by IMEI, again, Apple has no control over the cell networks and hence cannot block any iPhone from connecting to a cell network. This can only be done by the cell networks, and none cooperate to the extent that any phone can be blocked from all, or even several, different networks.


I understand the ire and frustration when something you own is lost or stolen, but there is again no practical way any cellphone manufacturer can block use of an phone permanently throughout the world or provide foolproof tracking capabilities.


'nuff said. Regards.

Dec 11, 2012 7:21 AM in response to KiltedTim

" Because you telling Apple that the phone was stolen does not constitute proof that it was", what the **** are you talking about do you think we are making it up, we have police crime reference numbers which we could produce to APPLE if needed to verify the phone has been stolen.

"Name one phone manufacturer that will do what you're asking for" none but isn't it about time they did, what is needed is people power.

I will reiterate , it can be done the technology is there but it's not in a company's interest to do it , that's it I rest my case !.

Dec 11, 2012 7:33 AM in response to lancs-lad

lancs-lad wrote:


Dear Michael Black,


Re "Apple cannot block a device from connecting to a network as they do not own the networks, thus have no legal right to say who can or cannot connect to any given carriers network".

You seem to be missing the point!, the Iphone the "person" is connecting to a network ( irrespective who owns the network) IS STOLEN !, hence we the customers of Apple are looking to Apple for help !.


I'm not missing the point at all. There is no point in telling Apple it is stolen. Apple has NO legal rights to interfer with how a carrier runs their business and their network. Apple could not help you no matter what - it is not their cellular network and they cannot dictate who can or cannot connect to it, nor can they interfer in the operations of the carrier's networks.


If you want IMEI blocking, you need to be telling/asking the cell service providers, not Apple. Only the carriers can control access to their own networks. Telling Apple completely misses the target for what you are complaining about.

Dec 11, 2012 8:46 AM in response to Michael Black

Dear Michael, forget the carrier I'm not interested in the carriers, I'm only talking about an Apple products , the carriers provide the airway for us to use with the aid of a phone , we bought an Apple phone and we would like Apple to assist us in preventing the stolen APPLE phone from being used on ANY network .


My daughter had a message pop up on her replacement phone with the comment " your iphone has been found ", when we logged into her account and checked the track was showing the phone was in Islamabad !. that was Apple technology showing where the phone was, now for the last time , it would be possible for Apple to prevent that stolen phone from being used thus deterring future thefts of Iphones .

Let's leave it there , there is life after Apple and other products which are just as good and do not restrict you to the world according to Apple i.e. flash player etc etc!.



Regards

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