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How do I make an electronic drummer for the backing of a concert

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VIVIAN HORWITZ Calculating status...
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Dec 11, 2012 7:32 AM

I am going quietly crazy... being just an ordinary musician NOT a sound engineer! - ALL I WANT is a collection of drum tracks that I can start and stop and then go on to the next one - (I.e. an electronic drummer) for a 30 song gig. (My Live Drummer quit) NOW I have been through all sorts of tutorials for mainstage and it all seems to be ok but I CANNOT GET ANY KIND OF SETUP that does this simple task - I have a zillion drum loops and I know which ones I want to use - but.... there doesnt seem to be any simple way to set up 10 loops one after the other with a way of moving from the last one to thenext one - and have each one in the right tempo - I could do this in 1979 with a bloody drum machine so why cant I do it with a huge computer and a load of software?!!!

anybody out there with a simple 10 step recipe for this task will have the eternal gratitude of an old bluesman!!!!

VIV H

(too old to die young but no too old to play the blues)

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)

    Hi Vivian,

    If you must use Logic for this task you will have to construct some sort of playlist. To keep it relatively simple I would first arrange and prepare each song separately. Each bounced song gets then imported again in a project for the final playlist. The pattern approach, like in the drum machines from 1979 (very expensive then), is a bit clumsy if you use it on more then one song in a given project in Logic. I would also consider using GarageBand or WaveBurner for PB of the Playlist. Maybe constructing the Playlist in GarageBand  instead of Logic would also be a good idea?

    Good luck!

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)

    I do understand what you mean Vivian, but aren't you being a bit to harsh on Logic. I can guarantee you, that if you would take the time, putting effort into learning some skills in Logic, you will get rewarded in all its creative glory! Nowadays, the computer really is part of the creative process in whatever form one chooses, as is the control-room of all studios I know. Even some time ago it was not uncommon for technicians/musicians to lay down the guitar part for a guitar player (musician), because the guy was to stoned or otherwise preoccupied. Some famous hits out there got produced this very way.

    If you stay focused you can achieve miracles. I mean you produce (mingle with the computer) or you lay down tracks (just hit the red button and let it roll!)

    Thats all there is to it, to begin with.

    And of course you also have the choice to work with a technician, who afterwards will perform miracles to salvage an otherwise wrecked guitar part.

     

    Have a nice day and good luck!

  • kcstudio Level 4 Level 4 (1,580 points)

    I can hear you loud and clear Vivian.......and believe me I fully sympathise with the underlying thought of your criticism, but.......the point is this: why should we waste time moaning about trivial point of views, when we could use this time doing something more constructive? And I really mean this!

    And during those early Apple days, a computer called Atari was the only usable machine for music production. That's, by the way, where Logic emerged from. Of course then it was called Notator and later it became Notator Logic. Apple computers, in those days where considered a joke when they showed up in a studio environment. Comparing all of that and more, with the present time, we must come to conclude that, from a technical/creative point of view, i'm sure you must agree, we're in paradise.

    So what went wrong, why are so many musicians so frustrated and on the edge of a nervous brake down whenever they have to use computers. Well, one part of the answer lay's in that reality has not lived up to their expectations of what a  computer can and can not do. Again, it seems like a waste of time, hours of work configuring and no results.......

    Sometimes, while composing music, I will get stuck and there is nobody or nothing to blame. This happened too, before I started using computers helping me to do part of the job. And before that my pencil tip broke or I went out of ink and I had a broken string and no spare.

    I don't mean to belittle you in any way and I'm sure you perfectly aware what to do, but I found out for myself, some time ago, that if I want change to happen and make things go my way, so to speak, I'll have to get organised, learn a few things. Now I bent and shape everything until it suits my needs perfectly. And yes, there are times, when playing music, I intentionally leave computers alone!

     

    Cheers!

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