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Q: My ibook g4 is cutting off since I bought a replica power adaptor, I am using it without battery. the guy who I bought from doesnt want to refund because I am using it without battery. He says I am abusing the adaptor. Anyone has anything to say about it?

Hi everyone.  Couple of weeks ago I bought a chinise replica adaptor for my ibook g4. Since when my ibook is cutting off. The guy I bought from doesnt want to refund money because he is saying I am abusing the adaptor by using it without the battery and its not disign for that. Is anyone has to say about it?

iBook, Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Dec 11, 2012 7:19 AM

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  • by Knucklesmac,

    Knucklesmac Knucklesmac Dec 11, 2012 9:21 AM in response to andreiha
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    Dec 11, 2012 9:21 AM in response to andreiha

    Hello,

     

    That's just rubbish. How many people have flat or faulty batteries and use the power adapter all the time.

    I've in the past had no battery connected and used just the power adapter without any problems.

    Sounds to me like someone has sold you a faulty power adapter and is refusing to refund you.

    Tell them to provide you with evidence from any original Apple documentation which states a battery must be present to use the power adapter, I think they will find, there wont be one.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Dec 11, 2012 9:30 AM in response to andreiha
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    Dec 11, 2012 9:30 AM in response to andreiha

    andreiha wrote:

     

    ... Is anyone has to say about it?

     

    I say it's just plain stupid to use a $2.75 charger for a $1000 computer.

     

    These devices almost always carry fraudulent labels, sometimes even fraudulent regulatory approval markings. You risk damaging your computer, electric shock, fire, or all the above.

  • by andreiha,

    andreiha andreiha Dec 11, 2012 9:55 AM in response to Knucklesmac
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    Dec 11, 2012 9:55 AM in response to Knucklesmac

    thank you for reply.

    Thats that I think as well. the guy just doesnt want refund it. Im useing dell laptop without adapter too and there is no problem.

    The guy sold me actually replacement adaptor delta electronics ltd. He said it charger ( what ever he likes to call it) but it should supply dirrect stable current to laptop. His words was you only have to charge  a battery and he contacted apple and they said to him what im using it wrong,

    what you think about it?

  • by andreiha,

    andreiha andreiha Dec 11, 2012 10:02 AM in response to John Galt
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    Dec 11, 2012 10:02 AM in response to John Galt

    Thanks for reply.

    my apple cost now 200 euro max. its old machine but I love it and alot of my work and information is there. so i thought replcement will do. went on ebay and bought it. The guy actually have enternet shop believe or not? look if you are interesting called Barrys of Blarney, barrysofblarney.com.

    He is buying cheap chinise staff and sells for good price (very good business).

  • by Knucklesmac,

    Knucklesmac Knucklesmac Dec 11, 2012 10:06 AM in response to andreiha
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    Dec 11, 2012 10:06 AM in response to andreiha

    Personally, he is having a joke. Nothing in the apple ibook manual of such like.

    It is advisable to stay away from cheap power adapters, but I do disagree with John Galt. I had a cheap third party power adapter from some of my iBook colors, and they have been just fine.

  • by andreiha,

    andreiha andreiha Dec 11, 2012 10:33 AM in response to Knucklesmac
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    Dec 11, 2012 10:33 AM in response to Knucklesmac

    Thank you for reply.

    Everybody who has any common sence will agree with me. but alot people like this guy.

    Just wanna ask if anyone know where I can get info about if I can use adapter without battery for apple ibook g4? Or about what adaptors designed for. Because adaptors are not jus chargers they are also a power supplyers.

    I just wanna wipe his nose with that and ofcourse get money back.

     

    So if anyone has any information please send me links or copies.

    thanks

  • by Knucklesmac,

    Knucklesmac Knucklesmac Dec 11, 2012 10:43 AM in response to andreiha
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    Dec 11, 2012 10:43 AM in response to andreiha

    http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/ibookg4gettingstarted.pdf

     

    Page 21  and page 45 about battries

     

    What it does say, is use only the power adapter supplied with your iBook.

    Nothing about replacements or use of a power supply without a battery

  • by andreiha,

    andreiha andreiha Dec 11, 2012 10:50 AM in response to Knucklesmac
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    Dec 11, 2012 10:50 AM in response to Knucklesmac

    thanks, I read that. Do you know how to contact apple support team at any chance? Or manufacture?

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Dec 11, 2012 11:45 AM in response to andreiha
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    Dec 11, 2012 11:45 AM in response to andreiha

    Your € 200 iBook is not the only concern. Mains-connected power supplies must conform to published standards for safety. Disassemble a cheap aftermarket replacement and you will find many shortcuts intended to save money - expensive regulating devices are omitted, capacitors with lower temperature ratings, single layers of insulating tape where three or four are required, or required minimum distances between high and low voltage components completely disregarded. It is impossible to determine these cost-saving omissions by simply measuring output power.

     

    For a properly designed iBook charger, a minimum insulating distance of 4 mm is all that separates mains power from its output and your iBook (and you). It is not at all unusual to see less than 1 mm in aftermarket chargers. An electrical surge or even a change in environmental conditions may result in catastrophic failure. Electrical shock, fire, and equipment damage are all very real concerns.

     

    See Power Package Electrical Isolation Design for one description of IEC requirements.

     

    Quick - find the fake one

     

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    another post to read: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1215928/all

     

    Apple has several lawsuits pending against the companies selling these.