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New file at each start ????

Every time I restart my computer I find a ? file (see picture)

What is this ?


It starts about one week ago. I do not realize wht I have done to get this apparently empty file ?


Thanks

User uploaded file

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 2:49 AM

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Dec 20, 2012 2:48 AM in response to Austin Kinsella1

Hello Austin


I tried what you said without success. Unfortunatly.


At the end it seems that a Tack Pad "bluetooth" connected that I received recently is in fact the cause of this inconvnient folder appearance.


If the tack Pad is disconnected I do not get this folder.


What can I do to get the Tack pad and avoid thi problem.


I do not understand what I have to modify in teh prefrences ?


If you have an idea please tell me.


Merci


Marc

Dec 22, 2012 1:16 AM in response to Austin Kinsella1

Austin


I apologise but I made a msitake. I wanted to believe that the cause was the trackpad but in fact no. Even without the trackpad the probleme stays.


The only progress I made is that when I start in SAFE MODE the probleme disapears.


But I could not manage what extension is the cause. ??? A clue to find this ?


Thanks


Marc

Dec 23, 2012 11:12 AM in response to Austin Kinsella1

Austin I nee dyour help. I am lost.

I ran kextstat for both cases: normal and safe start up.

The difference is listed here below.

Where can I find these file to check which one is creating trouble. I believd they were in System/Librarry/extensions but thy are not there ?

Thanks

Merry Christmas.


90 2 0x358da000 0x7000 0x6000 com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily (2.0.5f14) <5 4 3 1>
91 1 0x35c25000 0x15000 0x14000 com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController (2.0.5f14) <90 76 14 6 5 4 3 1>
92 7 0x35d01000 0x2c000 0x2b000 com.apple.iokit.AppleProfileFamily (41) <14 7 6 5 4 3 1>
93 0 0x35933000 0x7000 0x6000 com.apple.driver.AppleIntelMeromProfile (19) <92 6 5 4 3>
94 0 0x35bad000 0x9000 0x8000 com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP (2.0.3) <87 39 5 4 3 1>
96 0 0x36540000 0x247000 0x246000 com.apple.ATIRadeonX2000 (6.3.6) <79 76 14 7 6 5 4 3 1>
99 2 0x358e5000 0x4000 0x3000 com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib (1.3) <5 4>
100 4 0x35f69000 0x18000 0x17000 com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily (1.8.3fc2) <99 5 4 3 1>
101 1 0x36279000 0x80000 0x7f000 com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib (2.0.5f14) <100 99 5 4 3 1>
102 0 0x3641c000 0xa4000 0xa3000 com.apple.driver.AppleHDA (2.0.5f14) <101 100 91 90 79 76 6 5 4 3 1>
103 0 0x348e4000 0x4000 0x3000 com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver (1.1.6) <100 5 4 3 1>
109 0 0x35fd5000 0x7000 0x6000 com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl (1.0.20) <76 14 7 5 4 3 1>
110 1 0x35fbb000 0x9000 0x8000 com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily (10.0.3) <7 6 5 4 3 1>
111 0 0x35fc4000 0x9000 0x8000 com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager (2.4.5f3) <110 7 5 4 3 1>
113 0 0x35ff1000 0x5000 0x4000 com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient (3.5.7) <76 14 13 7 5 4 3 1>
114 0 0x35fdc000 0xb000 0xa000 com.apple.iokit.IOSurface (74.2) <7 5 4 3 1>
115 0 0x2e7fc000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileCallstackAction (20) <92 5 4 3 1>
116 0 0x2e7e1000 0x5000 0x4000 com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC (1.57) <100 76 14 13 7 5 4 3 1>
117 0 0x2e7d8000 0x5000 0x4000 com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor (1.9.3d0) <5 4 3>
119 0 0x2e7cc000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileKEventAction (10) <92 4 3 1>
121 0 0x3549e000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileRegisterStateAction (10) <92 4 3 1>
122 0 0x2e81b000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileThreadInfoAction (14) <92 6 4 3 1>
123 0 0x358d6000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction (10) <92 5 4 3 1>
124 0 0x3599d000 0x3000 0x2000 com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction (17) <92 6 4 3>

Dec 24, 2012 1:24 AM in response to roam

Roam


Thank you very much but unfortunatly I still do not manage to remove this file which always appears at normal start up.


I ran

kextstat | grep -v apple

First I had to lines related to a new external hard disk and i beleived that was the cause.

I removed from my computer all what I could find with the seagate name, especially one line in System/Library/Extension but without results.


I ran it again and found a line with "Jmicron"

I removes from System/Library/Extension two lines with this name

JMicronATA.Kext

JMpPeripheralDevice.kext


But no results.


I am completly lost.


If you have an idea



I reintalled several time all the system but without suceess.


I plan to remove all the System/Library/extension files and reinstall the System.... do you think its a good idea ?


Merci


Marc

Dec 24, 2012 2:59 AM in response to Marc Victor Pierre

Hi Marc,

You say you are completely lost. In this case any action you take will likely be ill considered. There first needs to be a diagnosis before an action can be taken.

No-one has an understanding of your problem. A diagnosis has not been made. Therefore any action you take may be incorrect, or even damaging.


Please, relax. Put your computer aside and enjoy Christmas. 🙂


regards, roam.

Dec 26, 2012 10:48 PM in response to Marc Victor Pierre

Hi Marc,

I hope you had a happy Christmas. Looking at the image you posted on the 17th, I noticed some icons showing in your Finder sidebar, being 9 external disks mounted. These could be different drives such as USB drives, or disk images that are open (mounted). It is unusual to see so many. I wonder if, on any of those mounted drives, there is some running application which is putting an autosave folder on your Hard drive?


The reason I mention this is to draw your attention to many possible causes that gives rise to this autosave folder on your Hard drive.

Austin has suggested looking at loaded kernel extensions which is a good area to hunt. Locations on your hard drive which could load some process at startup can be seen in 10.6 at:


System Preferences > Accounts > Login items

~/Library/LaunchAgents*

HD/Library/LaunchAgents

HD/Library/LaunchDaemons

HD/Library/StartupItems

HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents

HD/System/Library/LaunchDaemons

HD/System/Library/StartupItems


Don't delete anything anything you are unsure about as some processes may be needed by one your applications. It is better to first determine what things are being loaded, which can then be considered as relevant or not to whatever is causing the creation of the autosave folder.


* the ~ refers to your Home User folder.

Dec 27, 2012 12:36 AM in response to roam

Thank you Roam


Yes I had a nice Christmas. It was very sweet in Paris although for us is winter time. I hope yo had also a very nice Christmas.


Thank you for all the clues you give me in your mail.


Effectively I have 3 hard disks connected. One through wifi and two via USBs connections. One of these has 2 partitions and the other has 7. That's why it seems that 9 USB connected disks. One of the first thing I did was to disconnect all the disks. But without impact. The second thing I did was to remove all LaCie softwares (a previous disk that I remove has it was damaged) and even all Seagate sofwtares (the one related to the new disk to replace the Lacie disk). But all this without effects unless I was not able to delete / uninstall all Lacie or Seagate softwares.


As far as the "System Preferences > Accounts > Login items" tem is concerned I have only one application there that is Microsoft Database Daemon. I deleted it seveal time bu it comes back everytime. Anyway I do not think this is the cause as I beleiev it is there from months / years.


Regarding: "HD/Library/LaunchAgents" I have only few items

User uploaded file


Regarding "HD/Library/LaunchDaemons" there are also few items


User uploaded file

Regading "HD/Library/StartupItems" I have


User uploaded file

But in "HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents" there are 73 items, in "HD/System/Library/LaunchDaemons" there are 164 items and in "HD/System/Library/StartupItems" ZERO items. ??????


I am unable to find in all these items which ones are causing troubles. How can I find the differences beween a strat in SAFE MODE and a NORMAL START ?


Merci


Marc

Dec 27, 2012 3:03 AM in response to Marc Victor Pierre

Hello Marc,

Looking at my system I have similar numbers in

HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents 75 and...

HD/System/Library/LaunchDaemons 169 both of which are mostly com.apple files.

HD/System/Library/StartupItems 0

I think you could rule out those above locations as unremarkable.


That leaves,

HD/Library/LaunchAgents

HD/Library/LaunchDaemons

HD/Library/StartupItems


and unfortunately I am not familiar with any of the files contained in them. I don't know what is causing the creation of that Library/Autosave folder. Perhaps someone can offer some techniques to track it down, but I'm sorry to be unable to go any further.


regards, roam

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