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  • Austin Kinsella1 Level 6 Level 6
    Mac OS X

    Aggggh no! The folder to delete is the one that keeps appearing, name "~". Sorry for the ambiguous suggestion

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1

    Hello Austin


    I tried what you said without success. Unfortunatly.


    At the end it seems that a Tack Pad "bluetooth" connected that I received recently is in fact the cause of this inconvnient folder appearance.


    If the tack Pad is disconnected I do not get this folder.


    What can I do  to get the Tack pad and avoid thi problem.


    I do not understand what I have to modify in teh prefrences ?


    If you have an idea please tell me.





  • Austin Kinsella1 Level 6 Level 6
    Mac OS X

    What is the make and model?

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1

    It's the Apple track Pad


    Track pad.jpg

  • Austin Kinsella1 Level 6 Level 6
    Mac OS X

    I think that puts a preferences panel in System Preferences, in the Apple menu. See is there anything relevant there.

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1



    I apologise but I made a msitake. I wanted to believe that the cause was the trackpad but in fact no. Even without the trackpad  the probleme stays.


    The only progress I made is that when I start in SAFE MODE the probleme disapears.


    But I could not manage what extension is the cause. ??? A clue to find this ?





  • Austin Kinsella1 Level 6 Level 6
    Mac OS X

    I was surprised to think that that might be the cause. In normsl strtup you can get a list of the loaded kexts by running Terminal and giving the command


  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1

    Austin I nee dyour help. I am lost.

    I ran kextstat for both cases: normal and safe start up.

    The difference is listed here below.

    Where can I find these file to check which one is creating trouble. I believd they were in System/Librarry/extensions but thy are not there ?


    Merry Christmas.


       90    2 0x358da000 0x7000     0x6000 (2.0.5f14) <5 4 3 1>
    91    1 0x35c25000 0x15000    0x14000 (2.0.5f14) <90 76 14 6 5 4 3 1>
    92    7 0x35d01000 0x2c000    0x2b000 (41) <14 7 6 5 4 3 1>
    93    0 0x35933000 0x7000     0x6000 (19) <92 6 5 4 3>
    94    0 0x35bad000 0x9000     0x8000 (2.0.3) <87 39 5 4 3 1>
    96    0 0x36540000 0x247000   0x246000 (6.3.6) <79 76 14 7 6 5 4 3 1>
    99    2 0x358e5000 0x4000     0x3000 (1.3) <5 4>
    100    4 0x35f69000 0x18000    0x17000 (1.8.3fc2) <99 5 4 3 1>
    101    1 0x36279000 0x80000    0x7f000 (2.0.5f14) <100 99 5 4 3 1>
    102    0 0x3641c000 0xa4000    0xa3000 (2.0.5f14) <101 100 91 90 79 76 6 5 4 3 1>
    103    0 0x348e4000 0x4000     0x3000 (1.1.6) <100 5 4 3 1>
    109    0 0x35fd5000 0x7000     0x6000 (1.0.20) <76 14 7 5 4 3 1>
    110    1 0x35fbb000 0x9000     0x8000 (10.0.3) <7 6 5 4 3 1>
    111    0 0x35fc4000 0x9000     0x8000 (2.4.5f3) <110 7 5 4 3 1>
    113    0 0x35ff1000 0x5000     0x4000 (3.5.7) <76 14 13 7 5 4 3 1>
    114    0 0x35fdc000 0xb000     0xa000 (74.2) <7 5 4 3 1>
    115    0 0x2e7fc000 0x3000     0x2000 (20) <92 5 4 3 1>
    116    0 0x2e7e1000 0x5000     0x4000 (1.57) <100 76 14 13 7 5 4 3 1>
    117    0 0x2e7d8000 0x5000     0x4000 (1.9.3d0) <5 4 3>
    119    0 0x2e7cc000 0x3000     0x2000 (10) <92 4 3 1>
    121    0 0x3549e000 0x3000     0x2000 (10) <92 4 3 1>
    122    0 0x2e81b000 0x3000     0x2000 (14) <92 6 4 3 1>
    123    0 0x358d6000 0x3000     0x2000 (10) <92 5 4 3 1>
    124    0 0x3599d000 0x3000     0x2000 (17) <92 6 4 3>
  • Austin Kinsella1 Level 6 Level 6
    Mac OS X

    Yes, /System/Library/Extensions, but without the on the filename.


    But those are all apple extensions, and shouldn't be causing conflicts ...

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1

    I still believe in Santa Claus


    Thak you for your help and I will post after Chistmas the results.....


    Joyeux Noêl et Bonne Année.



  • roam Level 6 Level 6

    Hi Austin

    A quick way of finding non-Apple extensions in Terminal is with this command.

    kextstat | grep -v apple


    If you used it Marc, I recommend copy and pasting it, because the vertical stroke is a pipe symbol, not an 'el' ou 'une'


    Merry Christmas to you both.

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1



    Thank you very much but unfortunatly I still do not manage to remove this file which always appears at normal start up.


    I ran

    kextstat | grep -v apple

    First I had to lines related to a new external hard disk and i beleived that was the cause.

    I removed from my computer all what I could find with the seagate name, especially one line in System/Library/Extension but without results.


    I ran it again and found a line with "Jmicron"

    I removes from System/Library/Extension two lines with this name




    But no results.


    I am completly lost.


    If you have an idea



    I reintalled several time all the system but without suceess.


    I plan to remove all the System/Library/extension files and reinstall the System.... do you think its a good idea ?





  • roam Level 6 Level 6

    Hi Marc,

    You say you are completely lost. In this case any action you take will likely be ill considered. There first needs to be a diagnosis before an action can be taken.

    No-one has an understanding of your problem. A diagnosis has not been made. Therefore any action you take may be incorrect, or even damaging.  


    Please, relax. Put your computer aside and enjoy Christmas.


    regards, roam.

  • roam Level 6 Level 6

    Hi Marc,

    I hope you had a happy Christmas. Looking at the image you posted on the 17th, I noticed some icons showing in your Finder sidebar, being 9 external disks mounted. These could be different drives such as USB drives, or disk images that are open (mounted). It is unusual to see so many. I wonder if, on any of those mounted drives, there is some running application which is putting an autosave folder on your Hard drive?


    The reason I mention this is to draw your attention to many possible causes that gives rise to this autosave folder on your Hard drive.

    Austin has suggested looking at loaded kernel extensions which is a good area to hunt. Locations on your hard drive which could load some process at startup can be seen in 10.6 at:


    System Preferences > Accounts > Login items









    Don't delete anything anything you are unsure about as some processes may be needed by one your applications. It is better to first determine what things are being loaded, which can then be considered as relevant or not to whatever is causing the creation of the autosave folder.


    * the ~ refers to your Home User folder.

  • Marc Victor Pierre Level 1 Level 1

    Thank you Roam


    Yes I had a nice Christmas. It was very sweet in Paris although for us is winter time. I hope yo had also a very nice Christmas.


    Thank you for all the clues you give me in your mail.


    Effectively I have 3 hard disks connected. One through wifi and two via USBs connections. One of these has 2 partitions and the other has 7. That's why it seems that 9 USB connected disks. One of the first thing I did was to disconnect all the disks. But without impact. The second thing I did was to remove all LaCie softwares (a previous disk that I remove has it was damaged) and even all Seagate sofwtares (the one related to the new disk to replace the Lacie disk). But all this without effects unless I was not able to delete / uninstall all Lacie or Seagate softwares.


    As far as the "System Preferences > Accounts > Login items" tem is concerned I have only one application there that is Microsoft Database Daemon. I deleted it seveal time bu it comes back everytime. Anyway I do not think this is the cause as I beleiev it is there from months / years.


    Regarding: "HD/Library/LaunchAgents" I have only few items



    Regarding "HD/Library/LaunchDaemons" there are also few items



    Regading "HD/Library/StartupItems" I have


    Startup items.jpg

    But in "HD/System/Library/LaunchAgents" there are 73 items, in  "HD/System/Library/LaunchDaemons" there are 164 items and in  "HD/System/Library/StartupItems" ZERO items. ??????


    I am unable to find in all these items which ones are causing troubles. How can I find the differences beween a strat in SAFE MODE and a NORMAL START ?