Currently Being ModeratedJan 4, 2013 9:03 AM (in response to pegaudet)
My long winded post above does seem to have resolved my classic corruption problem.
I still experience random spontaneous reboots after a sync, but so far, it has not hard locked. I find the click wheel interface very hard to use with a large library and resort to smart playlist syncing on my ipod touch for daily activies. I keep poking at the classic and use it some times over the touch, but it's mainly my "leave no tune behind" device. I'm still not sure if it's truly a fix short of using it daily for months at a time...
Basically, experimentation tells me the genius data on a classic that has more than 12,000 songs seems to make it suceptible to "hard locks", far more suceptible as the numbers go up. I'm up to 14,000+ songs.
From what I can tell, a random spontaneous reboot will not necessarily cause the player to corrupt itself, but a hard lock will almost certainly cause it to crap all over itself and likely take a permanent vacation, requiring a wipe/format/restore fix....
Currently Being ModeratedJan 15, 2014 2:02 AM (in response to pegaudet)
I think im having the same problem recently when I added a lot more songs to my itunes library.
My iPod seems to crash when I synced my complete library (20.000 or so..just music). The iPod boots I can select songs...but seems to crash quite soon. IPod reboots and gets stuck on the apple logo. Reset wont do anything.
Hooking it up to itunes wont work either...its not recognized.
Done so far;
-iPod into disk mode...recognized by windows. Seems good.
-Did a full HDD format (quick and nonquick) and check in windows...no bad sectors
-iPod diagnostics shows no problems...smart data only 14 retracts(?) have to check that again.
-Whiped HDD completly, reformated, restored with itunes and full resync. Same problem occur.
What worked (so far):
-Whiped HDD completly, reformated, restored with itunes and manually manage with just a few songs.
-I think genius is off.
My conclusion so far is iPod cant handle too much library entries? Maybe playlists?
Im gonna manually fill with around 10.000 songs. Sees how it holds up.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 15, 2014 3:39 PM (in response to micturion)
My library has grown since I posted the original...
The classic does have serious issues and their claim it can hold "40,000" songs is a bit exaggerated seeing as it crashes and is highly unstable past about 12,000 songs.
I have ONLY music (about 16,000 now) and ONLY one smart playlist which is basically "all music" on the classic and it is so unstable, I gave up using it.
With JUST the songs and JUST one playlist, I can almost hold it together with spit, bubblegum and and prayer.... If I load many playlists, it craps and requires the "format harddrive" treatment before it even finishes the previous factory restore process.
I'm sure it's related to the thing trying to keep that many song titles in memory, it run out and becomes very unstable and if it's unstable enough, borks the filesystem as described previously.
It would be interesting to strip out all the id3 tags from all the music (or rather a copy of the music) and sync those to the device to see if it becomes far more stable.... or load movies/tv shows to capacity so the list of "media" on the device is restricted to a handful of files, still having the device full...
At any rate, I'm not impressed with the lack of stability for such an expensive device and convinced they just added a bigger harddrive to the original design without thinking through that they would need more ram as well.
Now I'm essentially using it as a paperweight, having gone back to my 64gb iphone 5 and several smart playlists that swap out about 20 songs a day, every day so I can get full music library representation... I also gave up the notion of "leaving no tune behind".... and I will certainly never trust the cloud with my stuff either. At least I can be stranded for a while and still have a good sized library available, but that doesn't address the reason why I bought it in the first place.
In my opinion, the idea of the classic is great but the execution is a big fat fail. If you have enough to need it, it's unstable and not worth having. If you don't have enough to need it, the touch is far better.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 16, 2014 3:07 AM (in response to pegaudet)
Sounds like the "Break up large transfers" section of my Corrupt iPod classic post might prove useful if/when you need to reload again. I found it easy to add multiple playlists on once I'd got the media loaded. Mine is pre-Genius so I don't have experience with that aspect.