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Can powermac g5 boot from USB?

There is something wrong with my HDD, and I don't have a blank CD/DVD

PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jan 4, 2013 5:41 AM

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Posted on Jan 9, 2013 9:56 PM

Thats a shame, man! That superdrive is a great little drive for what I use it for and its fast, boots up Tiger and Leopard in no time.. But, alas.. You got the 100.00 OWC external which is nice also.. just bulky. As for the 3TB Barracuda, did you format the drive in Disk Utility as Apple Partition or APM?


Remember, these drives come pre-formatted for PC's, so you need to format it for Mac using PowerPC's APM partition scheme. 2.7TB sounds like the norm as some space is reserved for the operating system, so no problem there. I believe the Apple Partition Map can only accept up to 3TB.. 4TB wouldn't work as you would have to partition it.


devalias also called: device alias - shows what hardware devices are on your logic board.. USB,USB1,USB2, etc.. mean the USB ports.. ud is short for USB DEVICE.. and this is what your would find in order to boot the PowerPC using USB. You also have USB on the OWC External which you ordered.. Try this:


Try to boot from USB when you get it.. Hold down OPT+COMMAND+O+F to get into Open Firmware. Next type "devalias" and search for "ud". Once you find ud with your Leopard or Tiger disk in the drive.. type:


boot ud:,\\:tbxi - This will start to boot from USB.


easy.

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Jan 16, 2013 3:19 AM in response to Gatogreensleeves

The Lynx driver does seem to be part of the issue. The "Data access" with "frame not mapped or invalid" panics are a pain. They can happen anywhere in the IO chain- CPU cache, memory, drive, drive cache and any connected device that has any onboard memory of any type.

audio converter that uses a sound card

Even those...


So, given the report, I would look for updates to that driver.


Audio guys always take it real hard when upgrading OS versions. So much software, let alone hardware, to update, and so often, one or two items failed to get the needed updates; the maker/developer didn't want to deal with it or discontinued support.


Leave nothing to chance. Make a list of all 3rd party software and all thrid party hardware. Then, check with each items maker/developer for updates or known issues.

Jan 16, 2013 5:57 AM in response to japamac

Oh man, it's such a pain, because I can't do the firmware updates through the Mac- only through my PC at home. I thought I was done with those years ago for that device... I'll look for the software updates first on those. The device is still very popular and hasn't lost any value, so that's good I guess.



Is there some kind of driver updater software that would work well here? Something like Secunia (but better)?



If all goes to ****, can I go back to Tiger and format my new HD to Tiger?

Jan 16, 2013 6:02 AM in response to Gatogreensleeves

If all goes to ****, can I go back to Tiger and format my new HD to Tiger?

You should be able to.

Best is to have the original Tiger drive (the one where everything worked) and try setting up Leopard on a second drive.


Is there some kind of driver updater software that would work well here? Something like Secunia (but better)?

I can't say....

Time for leg work. Visit the various device makers forums. Search and ask if you don't find an answer.

Jan 16, 2013 4:48 PM in response to japamac

Thanks so much japamac. Sadly, I didn't preserve that drive, because the new one wasn't formatted yet. At least I have all the installation DVDs, etc.


Sure does look like the Lynx from the report. I haven't done a firmware upgrade in like 4 years and I bought a new computer since then when lighting blew up my old one. Not sure if I can even do firmware upgrades on my newer home PC. Didn't even bother to remember that I might need one that can accept PCI cards for that. I may need to send the Lynx to the factory for firmware, unless they can do them straight from the Mac now. Time for legwork, as you said. Good times.


Thanks again JM for your altruistic support.

Jan 28, 2013 8:21 PM in response to japamac

Got it! It was the Lynx driver that needed the update. Now it's finally time to format the new hard-drive. I still can't decide whether or not to make it journaled or not.


Once it's formatted, what's the best way to move the information over? Dragging it all? Migration Assistant?


Another guestion: can I put my old optical drive back in the bay hooked up, and if I do, while leaving my external OTC plugged in to FW800, which will it default to and how will I know?


Thanks again!! and again and again!

Jan 29, 2013 1:59 AM in response to Gatogreensleeves

I still can't decide whether or not to make it journaled or not.

Journal it.


what's the best way to move the information over? Dragging it all? Migration Assistant?

From Tiger to Leopard? Use Migration Assistant or do it during the initial setup with the Setup Assistant.

Apps are best not "dragged" especially if those have various plugins involved.....

Jan 29, 2013 3:58 AM in response to Vernon Alexander

I'm going from Leopard to Leopard now. My old HD is officially upgraded. I formatted the new Seagate HD with a 2TB partition for a "Media Drive" and an 800GB partition for a "Boot Drive," both Journaled with APM. The icons are on my desktop now and all is well.


So, I have one (old) HD with Leopard and all my apps on it and another (old) HD with all my media on it. It looks like I need to make a disk image of each, using Disk Utilities, then... transfer them to each appropriate partition of the new Seagate. Will it tell me how to do that? I presume to do the Leopard HD first (to the 800GB "boot drive" partition), then the media HD (to the 2TB partition). All using Migration Assistant?

Jan 29, 2013 2:19 PM in response to Gatogreensleeves

If you bought a new computer and you want it to be used exactly like your old computer you can use Migration Assistant. My last computer switchover I used Time Machine which can also do the job assuming you have a time machine backup. Now my new computer is exactly like my old computer only a whole lot faster.


When I upgraded from a 500 gig hard drive to it a 2T drive, I made a disk image of my 500 gig so that the new drive would be an exact clone of my 500 Gig drive.


Carbon Clone Copier. (Or CCC) is a simple program that makes an exact clone of one hard drive to another regardless of size difference and you can skip making a disk image. I noticed the program is still available but I haven't used it in a long time so I can't speak to the accuracy of the program. The reason I mention it is because it is much faster to clone one drive to another using this program.


Anyway, using disk utility is another way to clone a drive. After you make a disk image (which can take hours depending on the size of the volume and the speed of your computer) you will notice it in the bottom left-hand corner underneath all of your hard drives in disk utilities. Click on the disk image and disk utility will automatically switch over to "restore".


It will say, To copy a volume or restore a disk image to a volume, select the source volume or disk image, select the designation volume, and then click restore.


Pretty straightforward for transferring the contents of one hard drive to another assuming that is what you're wanting to do here.

Feb 5, 2013 4:09 AM in response to japamac

Carbon Copy Clone failed. It showed that I copied 69GB into the 800GB 'boot drive' partition I made for it (AMP- journaled) from my original boot drive with Leopard on it, but it wouldn't boot on its own. Just showed that folder icon w/ the blinking question mark, so I put the old HD back in and "erased" the 'boot drive' partition from Disk Utility to start over.


Then I started to try Migration Assistant, but I don't understand it. Do I have to load Leopard onto my new HD separately first before I can use Migration Assistant (or CCC), then treat my new HD as "another computer" in Migration Assistant after it has the OS on it?


Almost there,

I really apreciate the assistance!

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