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Thunderbolt Hubs and docking stations

We are looking to buy MacBook Pro (Retina maybe). We have two displays that are DisplayLink.


Apple seems to be behind/non-existant on the docking station game...(not enough companies to make millions here i guess?) so I know they don't want to make that, but does any 3rd part company make a Docking Station that you can plug the MB into and have all the ports already plugged into the monitors?


From a cleanlyness standpoint this seems like something Apple would do yet the only thing they offer in this regard is buying one of their displays. A $1000 Thunderolt hub? works for oil barrons, but not the rest of the world.


Belkin has an interesting offer, though since its not out yet, it's hard to know how that functions... do you plug in the Thunderbolt in the front? and then the back plugs just all work? is it that easy? if so it might be worth $200-300

http://www.belkin.com/us/thunderbolt


But it is amazing that Apple doen't offer a simple 20 ($30 apple prices) splitter.


i found 2 online after much dingging. is is discontinued and the other is out of stock. both look questionalbe with regard to quality.



So, am i missing something? Apple put all R&D and marketing into Thunderbolt got business to be the end of the chain, but over looked the middle?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.


thanks.

Posted on Jan 7, 2013 1:36 PM

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Posted on Jan 7, 2013 1:38 PM

The belkin one isn't out yet but its probably going to be your best bet.

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Apr 16, 2013 9:43 AM in response to cpage

So far, here is what is or could be available for Thunderbolt Docking Stations


Hopefully these are MSRP prices and the street prices will be much less.

Otherwise it will be living up to its nickname 'Blunderbolt'



Matrox - DS-1— $249


PORTS:

1x Thunderbolt

1x USB 3.0

1x Ethernet

1x HDMI

2x USB 2.0

Audio In/Out


PRO:

HDMI


CON:

Very Pricy

USB 2.0

1x Thunderbolt


CalDigital - Thunderbolt Station — $199


PORTS:

2x Thunderbolt

3x USB 3.0 (1 front)

1x Ethernet

1x HDMI

Audio In/Out


PRO:

Daisy chain thunderbolt

3x USB 3.0

HDMI


CON:

Price


Belkin - Thunderbolt Express — $299


PORTS:

2x Thunderbolt

3x USB 3.0

1x Ethernet

1x Firewire 800

Audio In/Out


PRO:

3x USB

Daisy Chain Thunderbolt


CON:

Price

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Henge - Horizontal Dock — $349


PORTS

1x Firewire 800

1x Ethernet

1x SD card

6x USB3.0

3x Video(Thunderbolt or DisplayPort)?

2x audio out


PRO:

6 USB 3

3 video... though i can't make out if thats thunderbolt or display port

2x audio outs... could be useful for headphones or speakers

SD Card slot (while not easily accessible this is an excellent ad on)


CON:

Price


Sunix - Thunderbolt Dock — No Price


PORTS:

2x Thunderbolt

4x USB 3.0

1x Ethernet

1x BluRay drive

1x SATA slot (3.5")

1x Mini Card Reader (SD, MMC, MS,xD)

1x Mic

2x Stereo

1x SPDIF


PRO:

BluRay

SATA

2x Thunderbolt

4 USB 3.0


CON:

Q4?

price?


Sonnet - Echo 15 Thunderbolt Dock — $399 DVD, $450 BluRay


PORTS:

2x Thunderbolt

4x USB 3.0 (2 front)

1x Ethernet

1x Optical Drive (BluRay option)

1x Drive Bay (2.5 or 3.5 SSD or HDD)

2x eSATA ports

2x Audio In/Out (Front and back)


PRO:

Optical Drive options

Drive Slot

2x Thunderbolt

4 USB 3.0


CON:

Price

available by summer


Models without an HDD will be available from Sonnet and its resellers

Models with an HDD will be sold exclusively through Sonnet's online store

Apr 16, 2013 12:27 PM in response to cpage

I think the Sunix dock was intended to be launched in Q4 2012. It was announced, somewhat prematurely in June 2012:

http://asia.cnet.com/computex-2012-sunixs-ultimate-thunderbolt-docking-station-6 2216255.htm


For a while the Sunix website indicated it was waiting for Intel approval (because Thunderbolt is an Intel system). That advice no longer appears - maybe Intel asked them to remove it.


Thank you for the consolidated list.

Apr 25, 2013 3:19 PM in response to cpage

Thanks, excellent summary.


Would you consider including the Lacie hub? It only has eSATA (x2), but has 2 thunderbolts, so can be daisy-chained. It's on my short list (price $179 being the problem), because I could use eSATA and absolutely won't get anything that can't daisy-chain (I mean, really, how aburd is that, especially considering the price of these things?).

Apr 26, 2013 9:07 AM in response to Csound1

True, this is an intel Tech, but so far Apple seems to be the only one with a daisy chain and multi formate offereing. (from their cinema display)


If all other companies are waiting for intel to release the approval from intel, and apple has already gone ahead with it, It could be that Apple has a licencing for 1-2 years giving them the first to market rights for this subset of tech.

May 9, 2013 7:34 AM in response to Csound1

The Belkin is Available in Canada now


http://www.marketnews.ca//LatestNewsHeadlines/BelkinsThunderboltExpressDockNowAv ailable.html?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email


not that $299 is a good price, but for $50 more the Henge offers a fair amount more.


It adds:

  • 3 more USB,
  • SD card reader
  • a 3rd video port (thunderbolt?)
  • and POWER.


Power makes this a DOCK and not just a HUB


If you have two (or three) monitors, this is the one to get.


also, it looks like it keeps your laptop cooler by raising it.

also, for businesses, it has a slot for locking too.

May 9, 2013 7:40 AM in response to cpage

cpage wrote:


The Belkin is Available in Canada now


http://www.marketnews.ca//LatestNewsHeadlines/BelkinsThunderboltExpressDockNowAv ailable.html?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email


not that $299 is a good price, but for $50 more the Henge offers a fair amount more.

My Belkin was delivered to me yesterday thanks.


I have owned Henge products before, I will never buy another, thanks.

May 9, 2013 8:32 AM in response to Csound1

That's great!


Let us know how it goes. our first impressions, or keep us posted.



Good to know about Henge, I really don't like that they don't have any photos of the real thing, not even a prototype. worries me. but it does look to have lots of metal so it should be more ridged then the last plastic Vertical Henge... me hopes.

May 12, 2013 10:19 AM in response to cpage

It seems like thunderbolt is a failure, so far the only products seem to be high priced docks that don't have the features people want or some external disc storage. I have a bunch of firewire devices like photo/video cameras and a ton of stuff that connects via USB. I purchased a new iMac to replace my aging mac pro (was also taking up a lot of space)

and as far as I'm concerned the TB ports on the back are useless. I would have prefered firewire and USB in their place. So a lot of folks will be upset that I call an Apple product a failure but from my standpoint it does not fit in with all the other devices I have.

May 12, 2013 10:53 AM in response to doesntcare

If you're not already using an only Thunderbolt port for an external display (as I do on my MacBook Air), and all you want is to be able to use your numerous Firewire devices, then you can buy for $29 Apple's Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter. Since virtually all Firewire devices allow daisy-chaining, you should be in good shape.


The problem for owners of Mac computers that have only one Thunderbolt port is that if you tie it up with anything that can't daisy-chain (like most monitors), then you desperately need something with (at least) two Thunderbolt ports to get back to a usable configuration. I can't believe how long I've been waiting, and how frustrating it is to see all of these expensive docks that have things that I don't need and/or are missing things that I need. It's really pathetic.


It might be premature to declare that Thunerbolt is a failure, but you might ultimately be right. It sure hasn't been anything close to what could be called a success of any kind.

May 12, 2013 11:07 AM in response to LowLuster

Apple's Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter lacks a second Thunderbolt port.


Like I said, if you have one TB port, use a monitor, and you'd like to use any other pre-TB device that you might have (eSATA, Firewire), you are currently out of luck. Or out of a lot of $$ for stuff you don't need.


I don't plan to purchase any TB devices to replace things that I have that work fine. I would just like to be able to use the things that I have: a monitor, a FW drive, other FW devices, and an eSATA drive. I can't do that.

May 12, 2013 4:07 PM in response to doesntcare

Calling Thunderbolt a failure, even though I get where you're coming from is to ignore history. Firewire is not a new technology, it's had over a decade to get its current level of support. Furthermore even though FW did quite well in the Digital Video Camera market in the early days, as computing accessories went it's NEVER been a mainstream technology.


Wanted a Firewire HDD Enclosure, a FW Card Reader, FW DVD Burner? Good luck with that (they exist, but try finding a physical store with these in stock). Wanted a Firewire Hub? Well, it used to be easy, Mac stores had them available often but these days? Not so common.


The only thing that has been easier with FW was buying an external HDD (not just an enclosure). To add to that, if you found any of the other items mentioned, till the last 1-2 years the 'premium' you'd pay for them would often be significantly more than the USB 2 (+ eSATA) alternatives. I personally have bought most of these things, so I know from first hand experience what's been required to research / purchase them.


So where Thunderbolt is now seems like a parallel of where Firewire previously has been.


So now I have two thunderbolt ports, I use them to connect at times to my external display via the MiniDisplayPort (which has been around for some time now and is well supported) using the Thunderbolt port, connect the one Thunderbolt HDD I do own (which cost a fortune, but also gives me performance my FW800 HDD could only dream of) and to connect my FW800 HDD drive+FW Card Reader via Apple's FW-to-Thunderbolt adapter, which I daisy chain. Even if I had a display which utilised a FW interface, I could still add it to the end of my FW daisy chain and i'd be fine.


If my thunderbolt HDD supported daisy chaining then i'd be able to connect all of these at the same time without issue to my Mac, unfortunately it doesn't, but that's hardly Apple's fault (it's LaCie's). As such, I'd like a Thunderbolt hub, but I'm holding out for now till there is something that isn't the kitchen sink offering but a good old fashioned multi-port hub. The lack of this is Intel's fault, not really Apple's, Intel is the one licensing it, Apple chose to use the technology, so they hold some responsibility, but they don't set the licensing fees or conditions which places Intel as the primary problem here.


xgrep's requirements can be addressed if his monitor uses a FW interface as it could sit on the end of a FW daisy chain and presto, problem solved. If he has two TB ports, then one port will cover his FW needs (daisy chained again) and the other can have the display attached (and should he later buy TB devices, he can create a TB daisy chain with the monitor at the end of that too). As for eSATA though, well, Apple's never catered for that, it is frustrating, but it's not something new.

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