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shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

Upon realizing that my note was deleted I ran to my iPad to try to recover the note. Upon opening the notes app i saw the title then it disappeared. Is ther a way to restore recently deleted notes to my phone. I was under the impression that iCloud allowed this. I though iCloud was a backup???


iPhone 4S, iOS 6.0.2
  • leroydouglas Level 6 (17,757 points)

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4878

     

    If you are synched to your  Mac you can access local snapshots (if you have TM turned on- this does not mean you need an external HD for TM.)

     

    Introduced with 10.7 still applicable for 10.8

  • shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

    The note was on my iPhone and I let my child use it for a bit. She got in there and saw that a few notes had been deleted. Is there a database somewhere that has recently deleted items that were synced with iCLoud?

  • shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

    I didnt answer your reply, sorry. I use a PC not a MAC computer.

  • Dartiesdad Level 4 (1,095 points)

    Shopjnr

     

    iCloud syncing is a double edged sword... it "immediately" captures changes you want on all your devices and it "immediately" captures unwanted changes on all your devices.

     

    Notes are not part of an iCloud backup but are part of an iTunes back-up.  Do you have a recent iTunes back-up?

     

    Cheers

  • shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

    i see! i cannot remember the last time I synced my phone with Itunes. It has been at least a few weeks. I guess the partial note could be in there.

  • Dartiesdad Level 4 (1,095 points)

    Well itf it's that old then if you restore you will lose some of your stuff that is on your phone since then.  So if you choose to go that way then I think you should print the newer notes from your computer as they will disappear.

     

    ughhh  We all feel your pain.

  • shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

    is there a way to only restore the backup of the notes app?

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,757 points)

    Dartiesdad wrote:

     

    Notes are not part of an iCloud backup but are part of an iTunes back-up.

     

    Actually, entries in the Notes app are part of your device's backup, and if you restore from your last backup then the deleted note(s) will be recovered, as long as they were present at the time of the last backup.

     

    Keep in mind that there's a big difference between iCloud and your backup file (which may or may not be in iCloud).  The notes you keep in the Notes app to get pushed to iCloud (if you've set it to do so) and any changes you make within Notes are reflected in iCloud as soon as your device has web access.

     

    But your backup file, which may be backed up in iCloud or on your computer (depending on how you set it up) will save your Notes.  Restoring from the last backup will return the Notes to the state they were in at the time of the last backup.  This is why one should back up daily, either as part of an iTunes sync or separately as an automatic backup to iCloud (assuming you've set it to backup to iCloud).

  • shopjnr Level 1 (0 points)

    ok, how do i do a notes restore from iTunes? thanks so much for your help with this.

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,757 points)

    shopjnr wrote:

     

    is there a way to only restore the backup of the notes app?

    Restoring from your last backup is an all-or-nothing deal ... you can't pick and choose what to restore.   Syncing to iTunes and backing up are not the same, and not necessarily connected.  Anytime you do a sync a backup is created, but you can backup (to iCloud) without doing a sync to iTunes.  How are you doing your backup, to your computer or to iCloud?

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,757 points)

     

    shopjnr wrote:

     

    ok, how do i do a notes restore from iTunes? thanks so much for your help with this.

    Connect the iPhone to iTunes and locate it in the left column.  Since you're on a PC, right-click on its name and select "Restore from backup".

     

    As noted above, your backup is done each time you sync so if you haven't done a sync in awhile then the backup could pre-date the missing note.  But if you have your iPhone set to backup to iCloud automatically each day (external power applied, on wi-fi, screen off) then your backup could be very recent.

  • Dartiesdad Level 4 (1,095 points)

    Rockmyplimsoul

     

    Okay

     

    I don't see Notes in the list of backed up items, as well the historical posts have been pretty clear about Notes not being part of an iCloud back-up.

     

    You get 5 GB of free iCloud storage for:

    • Photos and videos in the Camera Roll
    • Device settings (for example: Phone Favorites, Wallpaper, and Mail, Contacts, Calendar accounts)
    • App data
    • Home screen and app organization
    • Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
    • Ringtones
    • Visual Voicemails

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  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,757 points)

    Dartiesdad wrote:

     

    I don't see Notes in the list of backed up items, as well the historical posts have been pretty clear about Notes not being part of an iCloud back-up.

    The last post you quoted was correct, Notes are part of the backup file, you can see that here:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946

     

    Although this article is written from the perspective of backing up locally, the backup file contains the same information whether stored locally or in iCloud.  I can tell from experience that restoring my devices from my iCloud backup does indeed restore my Notes -- there would be howls of pain if there was a difference between a local backup and an iCloud backup!

     

    I think part of the problem is the confusion between iCloud storage and iCloud backup.  iCloud storage are the things you can access from your device (prior purchases, Calender, Contacts, e-mail, and yes Notes).  Backup is the data that defines your device settings, app data, and a lot of other things defined in the article above.  You can't access the things inside your backup, but restoring from your backup puts them back in place.

  • Dartiesdad Level 4 (1,095 points)

    Rockymyplimsoul

     

    This has helped me a lot, thank you,

     

    There is confusion out there and I think it 's becoming clearer to me, so if you have patience for another question.

     

    This is the screen from my iPhone  I have notes in 3 accounts:

     

    1.  Gmail (actually none)

    2.  On my Phone - (local)

    3.  iCloud - most of notes synced over from my Mac

     

    What happens with each one?  That would help me understand the best

     

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