New System, described Software IS installed which should have been removed!

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Lemon17. Author

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New System, described Software IS installed which should have been removed!

Hello,

I have a completely new Macbook Pro Retina which already came with Mountain Lion.

I have erased it once, then reinstalled Mountin Lion via Internet Recovery.

Java has never been installed.

As far as I know, Mountain Lion does not come with Java.

In fact, I could not find a Java Runtime on my Mac, but some other things:

Java-Preferences (Utilities) is there. When I start it, it says I should download the Java 6 Runtime, but at least it's there.
Under Safari -> Installed Plug-Ins "Java-Applet-Plug-In" is still listed.
There are some folders and files from Java! For example: Macintosh HD -> Library -> Java or Macintosh HD -> System -> Library -> Java

The first two points should not exist! As the description of this Update

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5493?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

says, both Java-Preferences and Java-Applet-Plug-In should have been removed!

How is this possible?

Thanks

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), Freshly installed OSX

Posted on Jan 15, 2013 2:02 PM

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Linc Davis

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Jan 15, 2013 10:34 PM in response to Lemon17.

As far as I know, Mountain Lion does not come with Java.

Correct, but it does come with the necessary support to enable Java to be installed.

The first two points should not exist!

Yes, they should, and they're functioning as intended.

both Java-Preferences and Java-Applet-Plug-In should have been removed!

They're removed if and when you install Java.

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Answer 2

Jan 15, 2013 11:02 PM in response to Lemon17.

OS X comes with a number of Java-related tools that are available for if/when you decide to install Java. Apple's supplied Java runtime interfaces with these, but the latest versions from Oracle do not. These tools are essentially like car bodies without a supplied engine.

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Lemon17. Author

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Jan 16, 2013 12:44 PM in response to Linc Davis

both Java-Preferences and Java-Applet-Plug-In should have been removed!

They're removed if and when you install Java.

Just to get this right - does this mean that if you have not installed Java, Java-Preferences and Java-Applet-Plug-In are installed.

If you install a Java, you'll get this Update (OSX 20120-006) which uninstalls them.

Is this correct?

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Answer 4

Jan 16, 2013 12:49 PM in response to Lemon17.

That is correct, though this is only the case with Apple's supplied Java updates, so if you install Java 7 then these tools will remain but will still be of no use to the system.

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Linc Davis

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Jan 16, 2013 12:59 PM in response to Lemon17.

Is this correct?

Yes.

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