Iphoto 11 -How to turn off faces?

Hello,

is there a way to disable the ***ing "face detection" function ?

It creates thousands of separate thumbnails, many of them do not even show faces, and same people are shown as different ones, so having more than 5.000 faces in my library (which is definitely not the case). This function only takes up space, steals cpu power and is useless for me. I have about 17.000 Pictures in iphoto, andi think it makes the database handling even more instable by creating multiple "faces" thumbnails and redirecting them to the corresponding file.


Thanks for an answer... (What do you think - Better move to LR?)


Michael

Macbook Pro, none

Posted on Jan 19, 2013 1:04 AM

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Apr 2, 2014 12:05 PM in response to petiteGW

A poster called lopezio claims the following will do the job:


This is how you can disable (turn off) Face detection, without deleting faces found so far (just in case you want to restart processing at another time):


1. Quit iPhoto

2. Open Terminal Application (Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app)

3. Type the following (exactly as is):


defaults write com.apple.iPhoto PKFaceDetectionEnabled 0


(then return)


4. - Start iPhoto - Faces stops getting on your nerves...


If you ever need to re-enable faces, just do the same again and replace the 0 with 1.


I've not tested this so I'd offer a significant warning to back up first and even if it does work then to be wary if you're updating or upgrading as it may have an impact there too.


What definitely works, and safely, is to upgrade to Aperture as that has an option to disable faces. Pay more get more options.

Jan 19, 2013 7:13 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

But, i want Iphoto to store my final images and to have the seamingless itegration in the OS, without having to carry "the bulk" with me - especially nowadays when using SSD´s is still expensive. I hope i could explain this.


And that is what Aperture would do for you: It lets you keep high quality jpeg previews on your internal drive and reference selected original files (tiff, raw, jpeg) on an external volume. The external drive can be offline, as long as you do not want to edit those referenced images.

Dec 30, 2013 9:06 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

Start of solution:


I did some digging in the prefs of iPhoto and found out the following. This is how you can disable (turn off) Face detection, without deleting faces found so far (just in case you want to restart processing at another time):


1. Quit iPhoto

2. Open Terminal Application (Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app)

3. Type the following (exactly as is):


defaults write com.apple.iPhoto PKFaceDetectionEnabled 0


(then return)


4. - Start iPhoto - Faces stops getting on your nerves...


If you ever need to re-enable faces, just do the same again and replace the 0 with 1.


Greetings,


lopezio


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Nov 6, 2014 11:41 AM in response to KJCO

Exporting never exports any face thumbnails - if fact there is no way to export face thumbnails from iPhoto


All of the export options are shown here - Exporting From iPhoto - face thumbnails are not among them


and since you question has nothing at all to do with turning faces off (the subject of this thread) you should not ThreadJack a different thread but start your own - it works better for everyone - especially the OP and future readers who get confused with multiple subjects being discussed in a single thread


LN

Jan 5, 2015 8:40 AM in response to MrSaintz

Tell you what. after using Lightroom on a new OS for all of three days I would be slow to comment on it. But then I'm aware that things on other OSes and in other applications might not work the way I expect them to, and that does not mean that they are wrong, just a different approach. So, I would say that if you're running into trouble with a new app on a new OS after three days that there's a significant chance that you haven't grasped the application or the OS.


As for your opinions, yes you are entitled to opine that Faces is a feature of little use to you. To describe it as 'useless' fails to take account of other people's preferences. But when you say that a Managed Library is a marketing scheme to get people to Aperture you are simply talking though a pretty thin hat. You can migrate to Aperture with a Managed or Referenced Library. iPhoto's Managed Library predates Aperture by years and the option to run a referenced Library was introduced to iPhoto before Aperture was ever released. So, both in terms of history and the capabilities of both apps you're about as accurate as I would expect from someone who has used the OS and one of these apps for three days. In other words, clueless.


For the sake of others who might read this I'll clarify.


As far as I could explore: managed, copies the full picture into the library, after finishing( or during import event, don't remember it now) import, the tool suggests to delete the full picture from where you are importing.


iPhoto copies the file into the Library package, and offers to delete from the camera or phone. It doesn't suggest it, you can easily decline. I strongly suggest to people that they do, always have.


Actually it does so too with referenced option, witch seems even wronger, since you are not holding the raw picture anywhere if you do it, so might loose it right from the beginning...didn't even test it on either method anyway(I mean I didn't go with delete option).


No it doesn't. In fact, iPhoto cannot import a Referenced Structure. You need to get the images from your camera to your filing system yourself. Then add the images to iPhoto.


If you use both Managed and keep the files you are just duplicating all your full work, where for me it's not the point of a library, I just want to know what I have, organize it in a good enough faster view, and start from that point, for editing it's another subject, again in my humble opinion.


But why would you keep the files? You import to iPhoto. Confirm the import has gone correctly. Then reformat the card with your camera - which is actually faster. If you want to manage files use a file Manager. iPhoto is about managing Photos. Not the same thing.


This means most people that might be using iphoto, if in managed option, would tend to allow them selves to remove original picture. Saying this, by corrupting the library, all is gone since all original files were deleted from import.


Well actually no. in 99.9% of cases a corrupt iPhoto library means the database file is damaged and the photos are perfectly fine. As I keep saying to you - and perhaps, which you may not have grasped in your three days, is that the files are stored in the Finder. The self-same finder that you use. Just look inside the package. There they all are, in the Masters folder.


If there is a problem there are three approaches which guarantee 100% success in recovering data. Using either a rebuild with iPhoto's own tools, using iPhoto Library Manager's rebuild option or, ultimately the best protection against any data corruption, an up-to-date back up will solve any problem.


Or just the same tools you would use with a Referenced Library.


In your first post you said...


call me a noob


and I took you up on that offer as everything you wrote then - and today - is indicative of someone who is not familiar with the software and how it works.


For more on iPhoto and file management see this User Tip:


https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6361

Jan 19, 2013 2:36 AM in response to Yer_Man

And that works in Aperture, but if you come back to iPhoto?

I made some tests:

  • If I disable the face detection for an Aperture library, that already contains detected faces, and then open this library in iPhoto, iPhoto will show these faces already in the library.
  • If I create a new Aperture library and import images with the face detection disabled, the "Faces" folder in the Aperture library will contain no named and detected faces. If I browse this library in iPhoto, iPhoto will not add to these faces. The initial "Faces" scan will not be performed.
  • But if I import photos into this library while browsing it in iPhoto, then iPhoto will scan the newly added photos for faces, but not the photos already in the library.


Regards

Léonie

Jan 22, 2015 11:01 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

  • Close iPhoto if its open
  • Open the Terminal app (search for it using Spotlight if you are unfamiliar with Terminal)
  • Type or copy & paste the following line:

defaults write com.apple.iPhoto PKFaceDetectionEnabled 0

  • press ENTER
  • exit Terminal
  • open iPhoto


This does not make the Faces tab go away, but it turns off future Faces auto-detection.

Jan 19, 2013 1:22 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

You can't turn off Faces. End of Story.


iPhoto menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback for feature requests.


There is no evidence that Faces makes iPhoto 'instable'.


iPhoto is a $15 app. Lightroom is a $150 one, is a lot more powerful - and complex. It's missing one of the best features of iPhoto - integration throughout the OS, and there's no migration path to LR.


Aperture is $70, has a lot more power and is more complex. It's a good match for LR, has OS integration, has an easy migration path from iPhoto and you can turn off Faces.

Jan 19, 2013 3:35 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

Update: Okay, Aperture has this function, but it has a major flaw: When Exporting to PS, it creates a minimum 8-bit Tiff file, which is aprox. 6 times bigger than the Jpeg reimport done from PS back to Iphoto. And there is no setting for this, for example, save back to Aperture with Q12 Jpeg setting (highest Resolution) - which is more than I need. So, the next step up, using Aperture has the major bug of storing Tiff images and jamming up my ssd.

And, no, I do not want an external extra drive for pictures ;-)


Any other ideas?

Jan 19, 2013 5:48 AM in response to Yer_Man

Dear Terence,


don´t get me wrong, i like the idea of lossless editing, but unless you are a superpro (or a supernerd...) it is definitely enough to enhance a picture and keep this. The more serious images that are RAW format, of which I think "I might have to re-tweak them again" I keep as doubles or an external drive. Finally this is a data Grave, since i rarely retouched a picture.

But, i want Iphoto to store my final images and to have the seamingless itegration in the OS, without having to carry "the bulk" with me - especially nowadays when using SSD´s is still expensive. I hope i could explain this. It would be enough to add a button named "delete original", and "delete originals in folder".

This way it would be great!


Thank you

Jan 19, 2013 7:09 AM in response to mkmichaelmk

Sorry but there's a contradiction here:



i like the idea of lossless editing, but unless you are a superpro (or a supernerd...) it is definitely enough to enhance a picture and keep this.



If keeping the enhanced version only is 'definitely enough' then no, you don't like the idea of lossless processing.


iPhoto menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback for feature requests.


But really, why want iPhoto to do that when there are all these others apps that already do it - Photoshop, Graphic Converter, Pixelmator etc etc etc

Aug 18, 2013 2:50 PM in response to Yer_Man

You may not have had problems with Faces but others have, and I am one of them.


I have had iPhoto crash with nothing but Faces spinning and sucking CPU many times. More than once such crashes caused the library to report "inconsistencies" on reopening and needing to rebuild over an extended period of time.


It is rather irritating to have a (useful to some) feature shoved down everyone's throat and not having the ability to turn it off. I do agree with you on the value of iPhoto being its decent integration with other things, and FaceBook, Flickr, etc. (Though I have seen many flickr photos duplicated as "imported from flickr" after an iPhoto crash led to some flickr sync oart of the database being messed up.)


Imran

Nov 9, 2013 3:27 PM in response to mkmichaelmk

If you simply do not want iPhoto to bother you with the "unamed" popups whenever you double-click a photo to view it up close or to edit it, there is an easy solution. In the right-sidebar that appears when you click on the "Info" icon in the lower right, there is a "Faces" editing tool below the Title, rating and description section and above the Keyword section. When that editing tool is expanded, the popups appear. But as soon as you close it (clicking the triangle "arrow" at the right end of the tool bar) the popups go away.


Solved my problem.

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