Aperture Rejected Images - how do I get them back?

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Aperture Rejected Images - how do I get them back?

I've had a look around the communities and can see a few people are having difficulties with rejected images and no longer being able to view them. Does anyone know if a solution has been found to this problem? Seems to be confined to images which were set to 'rejected' in prior Aperture versions.

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I have 1,190 items being reported as 'rejected' in Aperture (latest version):

However when I click into the folder only 29 images are shown. My filter is set to 'showing all' (and the same when set to 'x'):

Now having read other posts - I have found that if I delete a project that I know had rejected items in there - and then click on the project in the trash directory all of the rejected images can be seen! Frustratingly though, if I try to 'put back' it reverts back to the situation before (i.e. cannot view rejected images). I have even tried whilst in trash to update its rating to 1 star, 2 star, etc. and tried to 'put back' - again however, still unable to see the images when out of trash.

All of my 'rejected' images where rejected over a number of years and I believe it can be related to having upgraded to the latest version of Aperture. Interestingly, if I set a new image to 'rejected' it behaves as you would expect - i.e. can filter on 'x' and it shows.

I have tried rebuilding my database, repairing permisionings, etc. but to no avail.

Even tried exporting the project and re-importing it into a new aperture library - but still the exact same issue.

Stuck for ideas - any suggesions?

Posted on Jan 20, 2013 1:27 PM

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Jan 20, 2013 1:55 PM in response to @FazTweet

what version of Aperture?

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Jan 20, 2013 1:57 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Apologies Frank, is the latest version: 3.4.3

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Jan 20, 2013 2:14 PM in response to @FazTweet

I'm not seeing this behavior so I can only take a stab at it.

Are there any commonalities between the images that do show and the ones that don't?

The Rejected folder is nothing more then a smart folder that is created by the Aperture system. It is possible for it's setting to get messed up. However the little magnifying glass to open the smart folder settings is not displayed for the system smart albums. But there is a way to see what they are set to.

Select any regular smart album that has the magnifying glass, open its smart album HUD. Now leaving that HUD open select the Rejected album. The header on the HUD should switch to Smart Settings: Rejected. It should look like this

If anything else is set clear those out and set it like above.

Like I said it's a long shot but worth a look.

regards

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Jan 21, 2013 12:10 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Thank you for your help with this Frank. Unfortunately looking at HUD for Smart Settings: Rejected is identical to the screen shot you provided (i.e. only tick box is rating x - no other filters are applied). Also can see no connection between the 29 images that are being displayed (they are accross different projects).

Any other suggestions worth trying you can think of?

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Jan 21, 2013 12:41 PM in response to @FazTweet

Ok try this, Select the Photos icon in the Library pane of the Inspector to bring up your entire library.

Select magnifying glass next to the search box to bring up the filer HUD. Set the filter HUD to

That is filter for rejected images. What is the count of images here and how many actually show?

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Jan 21, 2013 12:49 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Thank you for your continued help with this. I have given your suggestion a try. Alas, the same 29 images are showing.

I have been able to locate some of the images by opening package contents in finder on my aperture library and searching for the filename of the rejected images (which I can see when I delete the project with the rejected images contained in through trash in aperture) - so I know the images are still there.

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Jan 21, 2013 1:10 PM in response to @FazTweet

Even tried exporting the project and re-importing it into a new aperture library - but still the exact same issue.

Stuck for ideas - any suggesions?

Have you tried to export the project as a new library? And then open the new library in Aperture?

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Jan 21, 2013 1:22 PM in response to léonie

Do you mean to export the rejected album as a new library? That's worth a shot.

FazTweet if you right click on the rejected album you will have the choice to export it as a new library, give that a try. Once it is exported open the library in Aperture (by double clicking it in the Finder ) and see what's in it.

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Jan 21, 2013 1:29 PM in response to @FazTweet

I see a possible problem (or a misunderstanding on my part)

When you have the Rejected album selected you should see an x in the search box AND the filter HUD should show rating is X like this:

These are independent but both need to be set as shown. So if you select the rejected album do you see the two settings as above?

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Jan 21, 2013 1:30 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

I meant to suggest to export the project with the rejected images as a new library, but exporting the "Rejected Album" itself is even better.

When I try to export a project after rejecting four images I get very surprising results - I do not trust the "rejected" count any longer 😀 I only rejected four images, but the count in the exported library shows seven. The exported project shows a count of 35 as it should, and four of them are correctly marked as rejected.

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Jan 21, 2013 1:49 PM in response to Frank Caggiano

Just tried the above (export the rejected project as a new library) and its getting curiouser and curiouser... I have one project in particular I am testing this with which only has six rejected images which I cannot currently view (unless I delete the project and can view in trash). I followed your suggestion and exported the rejected project as a new library and then clicked into it from Finder and created a new Aperture library. Again, exactly the same problem in the new library. The project shows zero items in it in the left hand side. If I then delete the project and click into the projected under trash the six images are viewable. However, I have noticed that in the trash it still says '0' or zero items in the project, but when you click on the project (when in trash) you can see the six images. Weird?

(The only potential difference with the new library created is that the rejected smart album on the left hand side now states zero items in it.)

On you subsequent post I can confirm that with each rejected album selected I can see 'x' in search bos AND in the filter HUD. I have also tried 'show all' but to no avail.

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Jan 21, 2013 1:58 PM in response to léonie

Hi LeonieDF - I tried exporting the 'rejected' album and out of the 1185 items my main library is reporting as containing - it only exported the 29 items which I can currently see when I open in a new library.

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Jan 21, 2013 2:13 PM in response to @FazTweet

I have just exported the project as a new library - but instead of opening it with Aperture have opened it with iPhoto instead. I can see the project under 'events' and when I click on it can not see anything but it advises at the top 'No photos (6 more hidden)'. When I select hidden photos from the top menu, I can then see all six hidden photo's as normal.

My problem seems to be confined to Aperture and the 'rejected' or 'hidden' images behave as you would expect in iPhoto.

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Jan 21, 2013 2:29 PM in response to @FazTweet

Has your Aperture library previously been an iPhoto library, or does it contain projects/events imported from iPhoto? Aperure cannot show images that have been hidden in iPhoto, see: Aperture 3.3: Using a unified photo library with iPhoto and Aperture

Photos hidden using iPhoto's Hide command cannot be accessed in Aperture. If you open the library in iPhoto, unhide the photos and then open the library in Aperture, the previously hidden photos are accessible.

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Jan 21, 2013 2:39 PM in response to léonie

LeonieDF - BINGO! It appears that the 29 photo's I can see under rejected in Aperture (out of the 1185) are ones which I took to rejected in Aperture - the rest of them were hidden in iPhoto originally. Interesting that Aperture still reports the total 'hidden' images under the total by 'rejected'.

Thank you so much for your help guys. Now need to work out a way to unhide everything in iPhoto and then re-hide or 'reject' them in Aperture..

I am a happy man :-)

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