3 Replies Latest reply: Jan 22, 2013 10:28 AM by trball1
Wally Wonder Badger Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

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On my shiny new MBP 15" Retina, when I look at many PDFs and scroll the fonts get smudged (for lack of a better word). This is really annoying, and the only way to fix it is to scroll that text past the top and then back so it gets redrawn. It seems like an arithmetic problem in the font arithmetic. I thought it was just a problem with PDF, but I see it in Pages too when writing letters (I use LaTeX for work, Pages for letters). It appears worse the smaller the font, and seems related to smooth scrolling, hence my belief it is just an arithmetic problem.


Look at the top of the second line of text in the attached image. It is is not the most egregious example, but a convenient one. When it happens in the middle of a line of text it becomes completely unreadable.


So, Apple, the Retina is awesome. But PLEASE put some effort into the code so that these rough edges go away. The reason I buy Apple is I expect stuff to work right. I'm paying a premium for quality, not because I am some hipster who buys Apple for the same reason be drinks PBR.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 16GB memory, 768GB SSD
  • trball1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So yeah I experience the exact same problem on my new RMBP 13'' (screenshots here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20925037#20925037)

    It doesn't really matter what desktop programme you use for reading PDFs, it gets distorted everywhere. I mostly read on Preview, but tried others as well, and they produce the same issue (except when reading PDF in Safari, or Chrome, then its fine).

    Do you think if it's an arithmetic problem it can be fixed by a software update? Or is it something we'll have to get used to and live with, from now on?


    I didn't have time to visit the Apple Store so far to ask them, but I'll definitely do so.


    Maybe it's just a problem with our particular Macs, and not with all RMBPs?

  • Wally Wonder Badger Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If you are seeing it in other places — I do too, but mostly in Preview — then it is a problem with the toolkit. It's certainly just bad programming. Does Apple care enough to fix it? That's a tough one. It's been a problem for a while and no fixes. Like the Thunderbolt USB audio problem: they no about it, but no effort to fix it.


    The Retina display support is really very rough. Safari still freaks out now and then when I use Facebook. Is it Facebook's fault for writing crappy Javascript? Yes. But it's also Apple's fault for not providing APIs that scale between the regular and Retina without people rewrite their code. I use Mathematica, a very expensive mathematics program, and even with their newest release it still does not support the Retina display. It is unbelievably ugly.

  • trball1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A bit off topic, but I also experience the choppy scrolling issue on Facebook, and also whenever the website tends to be a bit more complex. They haven't come up with a fix for this either. :S


    But what makes me truly disappointed is the PDF issue, since my main motive for replacing my old MBP with a new Retina was the sharp text that is much more convenient to read when it comes to working with lengthy PDFs (my old one kind of hurt my eyes since it looked very blurry compared to paper text, and I just couldn't stand it, i'm quite picky when it comes to my eyes ).


    Anyways, c'mon Apple, this is just too many bugs for a single product! They really must do something on these if they want to keep their customers....