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Upgrading eMac to OSX 10.5 - Problems!

I have an eMac which is running OSX 10.4.11. I need to upgrade it to OSX 10.5 in order to run some new software. When I made the upgrade, my eMac seemed to work except that the spinning pinwheel appeared and won't go away. I can click on items in the dock but I can't do anything else. What did I do wrong in my installation?

eMac-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 8:06 PM

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Posted on Jan 22, 2013 9:42 PM

Could be many things, we should start with this...


"Try Disk Utility


1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.

2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)

*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*

3. Click the First Aid tab.

4. Select your Mac OS X volume.

5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214


Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.


(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)


Any change?

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Jan 22, 2013 9:42 PM in response to puffteach

Could be many things, we should start with this...


"Try Disk Utility


1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.

2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)

*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*

3. Click the First Aid tab.

4. Select your Mac OS X volume.

5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214


Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.


(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)


Any change?

Jan 23, 2013 8:00 AM in response to puffteach

A few things to consider:


1) Did you use a full retail install disk to install Leopard? Looks like this:


User uploaded file

The gray system install/restore disks from another Mac wont do a proper job


2) How much free space on your hard drive did the installation leave? If you do the Archive & Install option, the old system folder is retained and that eats HD space. Highlight your hard drive icon on the desktop and then type command i to get this:


User uploaded file

"Available" should be no less than 10-15 percent of "Capacity."


3) How much RAM is installed? Leopard wants more than Tiger; 1GB RAM is the real-world minimum for Leopard. If you have a 1.25Ghz or 1.42gHz eMac, you can safely install up to 2GB RAM if you get the RAM from the right place.

Jan 28, 2013 8:52 PM in response to BDAqua

I tried steps 1-5 but had the same spinning wheel. Then I tried doing a safe boot. While in safe boot mode I did a software update and downloaded and installed the 10.5.8 combined upgrade. When the computer restarted I was rid of the spinning wheel and able to open most of the programs in my dock. I assumed that it was the software update that did the trick but after reading your post again I'm thinking that it might have been starting up in safe mode that did the needed repairs. Thanks for your help.

Jan 28, 2013 8:59 PM in response to Allan Jones

I installed 512 MB of ram (doubling the ram). I did not notice much of a difference in performance. I have an identical eMac sitting right next to the eMac I am working on and it still is significantly faster. Is there something I need to do after installing more ram? I clicked on About This Mac and the new ram is showing up (it now indicates that I have 1 GB of ram).

Oct 20, 2015 10:52 AM in response to seabd1

Hi,


You can only have 1 GB of RAM in that model.


http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/specs/emac_1.0.html


It'll run 10.5 OK, but will be slower than 10.4.11 because of the Video card.


Do any of these work in 10.4.11?


http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-IE&data=0ccCGROWIYN3dXi uwQp6HjgjdJ9OMRlwHjYazQIBWl0U003D&tc=6


As far as Scanning...


VueScan is not a free program, but it supports many scanners. <http://www.hamrick.com/>; The Epson L200 is listed as being supported.



For 10.4 printing I think the L210 driver will work...


http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php


I think the last 10.4 version is...


Gutenprint 5.0.2
gutenprint-5.0.2-ub.dmg (16.5 MB)

Gutenprint 5.0.2 is the latest release from the stable branch of Gutenprint 5.0. This release supports additional printers and offers some important bug fixes. It is fully compatible with Mac OS X 10.5.x (Leopard). The updated uninstaller is also included and is Mac OS X 10.5.x compatible.


http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/MacOSX.php

Oct 20, 2015 9:18 PM in response to seabd1

There is a little-known USB 2.0 eMac variant with a 1.0 gHz processor. It was sold exclusively to educational accounts but used ones are on the regular market now. It is mentioned in this everymac.com page:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/specs/emac_1.25.html

in the italicized text near the end of the text block.

Other than the processor and optical drive it was identical to the USB 2.0 1.25 ghz models. You can confirm--and you should--by opening System Profiler in Applications > Utilitites and looking at the opening screen, Hardware Overview. The second line, "Machine Model" in OS 10.4, will read PowerMac4,4 if it's the older USB 1.1 logic board, but will read PowerMac 6,4 if USB 2. Only the 6,4 version can use 2GB RAM.


You can also use this Apple article to find the exact model from your serial number:


eMac: How to locate the serial number and identify your model - Apple Support


You should understand that a significant number of the 1.0 and 1.25 ghz USB 2.0 eMacs have a fatal logic board flaw that is no longer economically feasible to fix. See if your computer's serial number falls in these ranges:


  • G8412xxxxxx- G8520xxxxxx
  • YM412xxxxxx - YM520xxxxxx
  • VM440xxxxxx - VM516xxxxxx


If it does, I would not spend any money on it.


I have a 1.42ghz eMac USB 2.0 that has 10.5.8 and 2GB RAM. It runs quite well for an 11-year old computer.

Oct 21, 2015 2:30 PM in response to Allan Jones

It show Powermac 4,4 and it take 40 min to copy a 1 Gb file from a usb.

So I think it's usb 1.00

Does this early model of Emac have a fatal flow in its logic board?


I just bought 2 Pcs of 512Mb of sdRam from eBay.

But now only 1 pcs of 512MB SDRAM ram is working, if I install the other one it's showing slot

Empty.


Can any one help?


So now it is running 512 + 256 = 768 Mb SdRam

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