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BobCov Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Jan 23, 2013 10:44 PM

So, the best thing about Apple is they know what I need and make sure that they can do all the thinking for me. I love that. For example, the brand new Mac Mini server I was working on deadline to finish tonight had a small problem that absolutely required a quick rebuild. So, I started the recovery partition which is great because you can recover your mac mini that way in extreme situations by just re-installing. But wouldn't you know it, Apple didn't put the software on the recovery partition. What sense would that make?  Apple didn't include a USB or DVD with the software on it, because why do that?  Instead, apple will not recover a thing unless you have an Internet connection and then it will download really slowly for hours and hours and hours.  I love Apple. They're so smart, those people. They are going to make me miss my deadline because they know better than me that maybe I should just forget about what I need to get done and just focus on what Apple wants.

  • steve359 Level 6 Level 6 (12,035 points)
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    Jan 23, 2013 10:50 PM (in response to BobCov)

    CarbonCopyClone ($40 download) can make a bootable copy of your install disk on an external drive, including the Recovery Partition.

     

    That way when (all disk will eventualy die) the internal drive dies, you can immmediately boot from the external and keep working, even if more slowly.

     

    Or you can clone that external back onto internal and restart from the last backup point.

     

    If I was maing money off the system, I would update the clone (incremental backup, really) once per day and keep things fresh and ready to take over.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,825 points)
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    Jan 25, 2013 10:53 AM (in response to BobCov)

    I totally agree, completely user unfriendly & a terrible idea in my opinion.

     

    And at least one poor soul lately needed to do a Restore, but has a 4GB limit of downloads from his ISP, already half used up for the month, so it sets at 1/3 downloaded & halts, likely to require a whole new download when the month turns over.

     

    Even the Restore Partition on the same drive is a terrible idea.

  • steve359 Level 6 Level 6 (12,035 points)
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    Jan 25, 2013 4:04 PM (in response to BobCov)

    This thread was helpful to me when I downloaded Lion on my SL system to learn it (my brother's family has Lion systems).  It allows copying the entire Lion (also works for ML) installer to a thumb drive: https://discussions.apple.com/message/16639520#16639520

     

    But that assumes you have loaded an InstallESD.dmg that is not actually installed yet.  I am sure there is a way to that when the system came with Lion/ML pre-installed.  Then you have what works well enough as an install disk.

     

    For when the RecoveryPartition is damaged as well ...

     

    Note that I am not disagreeing with your evaluation, just offering a work-around.

  • steve359 Level 6 Level 6 (12,035 points)
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    Jan 26, 2013 9:13 AM (in response to BobCov)

    I do not know for sure, but my experience dealing with the Genius Bar leaves me with this impression ...

     

    The upfront meeting is because they want to be sure of the full extent of the problem.

     

    I knew it was a hard drive in my MBP, and could have replaced it myself.  but wanted the "Apple paid for" replacement drive so let them do their initial evaluation.  I also had CarbonCopyClone and TM backup completed so was not worrying about how to get my data back on it.

     

    Others just sat: "It is broken" and "Can you make a backup for me?".

     

    They want to know what they are facing so they can schedule it better.

     

    You insisted it was just an OS install, so that is what you will get.  Not trying to sound  judgemental, just that the amount of "other health checks" they normally perform may be limited.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,825 points)
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    Jan 26, 2013 12:00 PM (in response to BobCov)

    Yes, I consider it ubforgivable that for as much as Macs cost, they couldn't toss in a Flash Drive with the OS on it.

     

    No telling, but I think some of what they're doing is starting to bite them.

  • keg55 Level 5 Level 5 (5,635 points)
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    Jan 27, 2013 5:42 AM (in response to BDAqua)

    BDAqua wrote:

     

    Yes, I consider it ubforgivable that for as much as Macs cost, they couldn't toss in a Flash Drive with the OS on it.

     

    100% agree with that statement.

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