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Q: Daisy chain two display port monitors (Dell U2913WM) to new Mac mini Thunderbolt?

Everything I read said that I could hook up a display port monitor to a Thunderbolt port on the mac mini.  I purchased two display port monitors (Dell U2913WM) that can be daisy chained, and hooked them up.  All I get is mirroring.  Does anyone know how to turn off mirroring with this setup?  I did not get the "uncheck mirroring" option in preferences until I hooked up the second via the HDMI port instead of a daisy chain.  The problem with that is, I cannot take advantage of the full resolution through the HDMI.  It seems I have wasted my money on two monitors.

 

Looking for advice on:

 

1) How to daisy chain these two Dell monitors to the mac mini and turn off mirroring and use an extended desktop, or

 

2) How to take advantage of the full resolution through HDMI port?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), New Mac mini Intel graphics card

Posted on Jan 24, 2013 9:17 PM

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Q: Daisy chain two display port monitors (Dell U2913WM) to new Mac mini Thunderbolt?

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  • by zeair,

    zeair zeair Oct 19, 2014 9:03 AM in response to .Monger.
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    Oct 19, 2014 9:03 AM in response to .Monger.

    So if you connect every U2414H to different thunderbolt port you will be able to extend your desktop to 3 displays ?

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 19, 2014 9:12 AM in response to zeair
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    Oct 19, 2014 9:12 AM in response to zeair

    Just what Mac are you referring to?

    zeair wrote:

     

    So if you connect every U2414H to different thunderbolt port you will be able to extend your desktop to 3 displays ?

  • by zeair,

    zeair zeair Oct 19, 2014 9:23 AM in response to lllaass
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    Oct 19, 2014 9:23 AM in response to lllaass

    Macbook pro 13 late 2013

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 19, 2014 9:39 AM in response to zeair
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    Oct 19, 2014 9:39 AM in response to zeair

    Yes. The specs for  that Mac includes:

    • Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on up to two external displays, both at millions of colors

    MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013) - Technical Specifications

  • by Edu Carvalho,

    Edu Carvalho Edu Carvalho Oct 21, 2014 3:02 AM in response to picaron77
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    Oct 21, 2014 3:02 AM in response to picaron77

    Hello guys

     

    Greetings from Brazil

     

    I have an early 2012 Macook air hooked to a Dell U2711 via Thunderbolt / Displayport. I want to add a second monitor, very likely Dell u2713hm.

     

    I have read the whole thread and have not seen any comments in adding a thunderbolt dock thunderbolt like Belkin Thunderbolt Express (F4U055ww). Would that not work and even allow you to have USB 3 ports?

     

    If the answer to above is a sound "NO", is there any MAC, besides the pricey Mac Pro, that would work for me? (I am fine with Mac Mini, Macbook pro too)

     

    Cheers

  • by mintywalker,

    mintywalker mintywalker Jan 8, 2015 2:46 AM in response to Steve Kellener
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    Jan 8, 2015 2:46 AM in response to Steve Kellener

    I have a similar setup.  Mid 2014 MBP and two Dell U2414H monitors.

     

    Both work if plugged in separatley, ie using both of the MBP's thunderbolt sockets.

     

    I *can* get both monitors to *sort of* work using DisplayPort 1.2 MST - namely using only *one* Thunderbolt socket on the MBP.

     

    The monitors ship with factory defaults set to DisplayPort 1.1a.  You need to first change the monitor's settings to DisplayPort 1.2

     

    The User Manual here, Page 25 ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_display_projector/esuprt_Display/ dell-u2414h_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf

     

    Having done that, I have this setup:

     

    MBP -> one MiniDisplayPort/Thunderbolt to DisplayPort cable -> First Dell U2414H monitor -> daisy chained via another cable to -> Second Dell U2414H monitor

     

    BUT ... the two monitors show identical / mirrorer desktops.  To be clear, I have UNchecked the "mirror displays" in the Mac's System Preferences.  And the MBP screen has a different desktop to the monitors.  But the two monitors display the same, mirrored display as each other.

     

    Put another way, I have three physical screens (MBP & 2 x Dell U2414H Monitors) and 2 distinct desktops (the MBP has one, the two Dell monitors have a mirrored 2nd desktop).

     

    Which is close ... but still rather useless.

     

    How do I get the two Dell monitors to each have their own desktop?

  • by seanfranklin,

    seanfranklin seanfranklin Jan 8, 2015 4:44 AM in response to mintywalker
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    Jan 8, 2015 4:44 AM in response to mintywalker

    >>How do I get the two Dell monitors to each have their own desktop?<<

     

    You plug each into a separate Thunderbolt port. OS X doesn't support pass-through DisplayPort. When you get both displays showing the same image, it's not "almost" working - you're just splitting a single display signal (which is all Thunderbolt will give you in OS X) to two screens.

     

    Happy almost 2nd anniversary to this thread, BTW.

  • by mintywalker,

    mintywalker mintywalker Jan 8, 2015 5:29 AM in response to seanfranklin
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    Jan 8, 2015 5:29 AM in response to seanfranklin

    @ Thanks for the reply & explanation.  Boo OS X

     

    Not that it helps, but for anyone else poking around -- the other thing I had to do with the Dell U2414H monitors (using the supplied cables) is use the monitor's menu to adjust the input (on the 2nd monitor) from DisplayPort to Mini-DisplayPort.  It doesn't appear to be clever enough to auto-detect which you have plugged in.

     

    Mac Thunderbolt -> DisplayPort input on Monitor#1 -> DisplayPort output on Monitor#1 -> MiniDisplayPort input on Monitor#2

     

    It's all covered in the user manual ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_display_projector/esuprt_Display/ dell-u2414h_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf

  • by jerzyki,

    jerzyki jerzyki Jan 16, 2015 8:05 AM in response to mintywalker
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    Jan 16, 2015 8:05 AM in response to mintywalker

    Is anyboudy from Apple can say something ............

  • by hastethechariot,

    hastethechariot hastethechariot Mar 3, 2015 8:43 AM in response to picaron77
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    Mar 3, 2015 8:43 AM in response to picaron77

    I am in the same position guys two large dell monitors, but I cannot daisy chain without mirroring.

     

    Has anyone been able to confirm that two apple monitors daisy chained will allow the extended desktop?

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Mar 3, 2015 8:48 AM in response to hastethechariot
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    Mar 3, 2015 8:48 AM in response to hastethechariot

    Two daisy-chained Apple Thunderbolt monitor do allow extended displays. That is because a Thunderbolt is different than a mini displayport.

  • by jerzyki,

    jerzyki jerzyki Apr 21, 2015 12:42 AM in response to lllaass
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    Apr 21, 2015 12:42 AM in response to lllaass

    Thunderbolt ports and displays: Frequently asked questions (FAQ) - Apple Support

    2. How do I connect my Mini DisplayPort monitor or monitor using a Mini DisplayPort adapter to my Thunderbolt-equipped Mac when I have other Thunderbolt devices connected?

    When connecting a Mini DisplayPort display or a display using a Mini DisplayPort adapter to a Thunderbolt peripheral (except as described in question 24), make sure the display is connected at the end of the Thunderbolt chain. You can use only one Mini DisplayPort device in the Thunderbolt chain.

     

    The problem is that port we use is not "real" Displayport, rather displayport adapter.

    It looks thesame but it is not.

     

    Regards.

    JK.

  • by dhm116,

    dhm116 dhm116 Aug 27, 2015 9:49 AM in response to jerzyki
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    Aug 27, 2015 9:49 AM in response to jerzyki

    It shouldn't matter - the fact that it works on Windows means that this is simply a driver issue, not a hardware one.

  • by QuadraSixTen,

    QuadraSixTen QuadraSixTen Oct 15, 2015 9:26 AM in response to dhm116
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    Oct 15, 2015 9:26 AM in response to dhm116

    Agree it seems to be a driver issue.  One thing I'll point out is that Apple has not updated their fancy Thunderbolt Display in 4 years which makes it even more frustrating that they wont update this driver.  I'm not a developer but I wonder if this type of issue could be solved with a 3rd party app As Mac OS X is open source.  I would pay $10 for a driver/app just to unlock this feature and would conspider paying more if someone wrote an app that had other functionally.

     

    If anyone at Apple is listening it would be nice to get some insight or confirmation on the status of support for Daisy chaining via DisplayPort 1.2 with 3rd party Hardware.

     

    Alternatively, it would be great to get soone from the display port alliance to weigh in on this thread as a previous user made an interesting point that Apple's current implementation of Display port (on the latest release of Mac OS X 10.10 and brand new Mat Book Pro Hardware) is not a full implementation of the technical specifications.

  • by DelGurth,

    DelGurth DelGurth Dec 16, 2015 5:15 AM in response to QuadraSixTen
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    Dec 16, 2015 5:15 AM in response to QuadraSixTen

    I would also love to seem some response from Apple about this issue. I'm trying to make a list about all the posts created around this issue here: MST Support but no support for daisy chaining?

     

    It's a lot, but seems not enough to get Apple's attention.

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