10 Replies Latest reply: Feb 21, 2013 10:47 AM by rccharles
Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I just bought two imac g3s. One works just fine but the other ones slot loader doesn't take the disks. It doesn't pull them in. To make a matters worse it doesn't have an os installed. Help?


iMac, Mac OS 9.2.x, iMac g3
  • 1. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,475 points)

    Not a lot one can do with obsolete G3's that go faulty, as no spares are available:

     

    Obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago. Apple has discontinued all hardware service for obsolete products with no exceptions. Service providers cannot order parts for obsolete products.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1752?viewlocale=en_US

  • 2. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,350 points)

    ebay for spares.

     

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    should work for any version of the OS.

     

    If you have a second Mac computer, you may want to try to copy over as many files you can. One way is to use target disk mode.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1661

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8443.html

     

    "Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire Target Disk Mode"

    http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html

     

    Here is a picture of  a firewire port:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_ Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg/800px-IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg

     

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    How to upgrade slot loading iMacs

     

    There are two assemblies with the iMac G3. The crt and the computer. The crt is fully enclosed. The computer is a tray that slides off. Working with the computer tray should be safe.

     

    You need to get the 3 and a 1/2 inch ATA harddrive.  They are also known as parallel ATA or PATA. The iMac was designed to take a maximum drive size of 128gig.  The 120gig drives are the largest readily available. Odd ball sizes do not work like 7gig and 13gig.  Pick a size that appeared on the iMac G3 or is a common size greater than 20gig like 40, 60, 80, or 120. Sizes larger than 128 will work but you can access only the first 128gig without buying additional third party software.

     

    Check out this site

    iMac HDD Upgrade Guide (Slot-Loading) Visual Installation Guide - slot loading iMac Hard Drive <a href="http://wn.com/How_to_Disassemble_an_Apple_iMac_G3" >Visual Installation Guide</a>

     

    Robert

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    You could try to locate the service and repair manual for your iMac on the Internet.

    iMac G3 600 is imac_summer01.pdf

     

    other names iMac_slotload_CD.pdf or iMac_early2001.pdf.

     

     

    Robert

  • 3. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Still looking for answers...

  • 4. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,350 points)

    What have you tried?

     

    It doesn't pull them in

     

    Bad cd drive.  Ebay for a new one.  DVD drive may work (probably) but have not tried.

     

     

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    Swap hd into good g3.  install os.  Swap back hd to nonworking one.  Should boot.

     

     

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    Since you have two Mac computers, you may want to try to copy over as many files you can. One way is to use target disk mode.

     

    "Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire Target Disk Mode"

    http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1661

     

    Here is a picture of  a firewire port:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_ Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg/800px-IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg

     

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    How to upgrade slot loading iMacs

     

    There are two assemblies with the iMac G3. The crt and the computer. The crt is fully enclosed. The computer is a tray that slides off. Working with the computer tray should be safe.

     

    You need to get the 3 and a 1/2 inch ATA harddrive.  They are also known as parallel ATA or PATA. The iMac was designed to take a maximum drive size of 128gig.  The 120gig drives are the largest readily available. Odd ball sizes do not work like 7gig and 13gig.  Pick a size that appeared on the iMac G3 or is a common size greater than 20gig like 40, 60, 80, or 120. Sizes larger than 128 will work but you can access only the first 128gig without buying additional third party software.  For very large hd's, format the first partition for 127 gigs or less. Leave the rest of the hd unformated.

     

    Check out this site

    iMac HDD Upgrade Guide (Slot-Loading) Visual Installation Guide - slot loading iMac Hard Drive http://wn.com/How_to_Disassemble_an_Apple_iMac_G3

     

    Robert

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    You could try to locate the service and repair manual for your iMac on the Internet.

    iMac G3 600 is imac_summer01.pdf

     

    other names iMac_slotload_CD.pdf or iMac_early2001.pdf.

     

    Robert

  • 5. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just want an OS on it. I realized that I could just put programs on it using my other imac and a flash drive. I also realized that the hard drive was shot. Could i use a flash drive to put an OS on it and use an extarnal hard drive? I also have an old cream- colored desktop that doesnt work. Could I use the CD drve from this?

  • 6. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The drive on the other computer that doesnt work is a slot-load. It did run Windows XP. Will this drive be compatable?

  • 7. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,350 points)

    I just want an OS on it. I realized that I could just put programs on it using my other imac and a flash drive.

     

    If you have two slot loaded g3's, you can do this.  Any Mac OS should work.

    "Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire Target Disk Mode"

    http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html

     

     

    I also realized that the hard drive was shot. Could i use a flash drive to put an OS on it

    The g3 will not boot from a USB device.

     

    and use an extarnal hard drive?

    as long as it is a Firewire connected hd.

    I also have an old cream- colored desktop that doesnt work. Could I use the CD drve from this?

    possible. The drives are laptop drives.  It has a combined data & power connector. ( seem to recall ) Take it apart & see if connectors are the same. They are PATA connectors.

     

    The drive on the other computer that doesnt work is a slot-load. It did run Windows XP. Will this drive be compatable?

    I'd guess so.  Needs to be PATA.

     

    Slot loading iMac

     

    You need to get the 3 and a 1/2 inch ATA harddrive. They are also known as parallel ATA or PATA. The iMac was designed to take a maximum drive size of 128gig. The 120gig drives are the largest readily available. People have put larger drives in the machine, but only 128gig is usable.  People have reported problems with small odd size drives, for instance 3gig.

     

    For drives greater than 128, I suggest you create a 127gig partition and leave the rest of the drive as free space. That way you will not have to worry about the boundary conditions.

     

    Did you set the harddrive to master? Master is a must. Cable select doesn't work. You need to set the hard drive to master mode. There is usually a label on the hard drive that tells you what jumpers you need to set. If you are not sure, give us the name and model number of the hard drive and usually someone will be able to tell you how to set that drive.

  • 8. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I took apart the old desktop and it apeers to have the same hard drive connections on it hard drive. But it has windows xp on it. Could I wipe the drive and use this?

  • 9. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    Sgort2000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Oh the other one is tray loading

  • 10. Re: iMac g3 won't accept disks.
    rccharles Level 5 Level 5 (5,350 points)

    Sure.

     

    How to upgrade slot loading iMacs

     

    There are two assemblies with the iMac G3. The crt and the computer. The crt is fully enclosed. The computer is a tray that slides off. Working with the computer tray should be safe.

     

    You need to get the 3 and a 1/2 inch ATA harddrive.  They are also known as parallel ATA or PATA. The iMac was designed to take a maximum drive size of 128gig.  The 120gig drives are the largest readily available. Odd ball sizes do not work like 7gig and 13gig.  Pick a size that appeared on the iMac G3 or is a common size greater than 20gig like 40, 60, 80, or 120. Sizes larger than 128 will work but you can access only the first 128gig without buying additional third party software.  For very large hd's, format the first partition for  125 gigs or less. ( With OSX, there are hidden partitions.  All used partitions have fit within 128gig boundary. ) Leave the rest of the hd unformated.

     

    Check out this site

    iMac HDD Upgrade Guide (Slot-Loading) Visual Installation Guide - slot loading iMac Hard Drive http://wn.com/How_to_Disassemble_an_Apple_iMac_G3

     

    Robert

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