7 Replies Latest reply: Feb 2, 2013 2:38 AM by PeterBreis0807
Tissybythesea Level 1 (0 points)

It seems to be an old chestnut and one covered in other questions, I have followed the answers but still don't seem to be able to delete the blank pages.


I have a four page document that now has six pages, the last two are blank.  In the thumbnails, pages 1 and 2 have sectiuon breaks and are individually highlighted in yellow. Pages 3,4 and 5 are linked in yellow so obvioulsy treated as 'one section' and page 6 is also individual.


If I try to delete page 6, which should be straightforward (?) as it has a section break above it and highlighted in yellow, on its own, pages 4-6 inclusive are deleted. Obviously tyring to delete page 5 also deletes pages 3-5 as they are linked.


To give anyone who can help some extra info about what I am trying to create, the document is a marketing leaflet, to be made into a pdf for mailing to email addresses. It has a coloured background with pictures and text in text boxes, which makes it difficult to insert section breaks.


HELP! This is driving me to despair I have spent so long on it!

Pages, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 (29,960 points)



    To delete an entire section (including a 1-page blank Section), the best way is probably to do it in the Thumbnails Pane. Select the Section and hit the Delete Key.



  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 (34,587 points)

    This happens when you have images with wrap set that causes text or invisible characters to pop in and out, depending on where they fall in the gaps and in turn moving the floating images themselves.


    Especially if, as many people do, they have used multiple spaces, tabs and returns to push text into position instead of using formatting to do the job.


    Menu > View > Invisibles/Layout


    to try and see what is doing what.



  • Tissybythesea Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Jerrold, unfortunately, that is what I have been doing and it hasn't worked - it deletes page 3 -5 (one 'section') when trying to delete page 5 and pages 4-6 when trying to delete page 6 (which incidentally, is a section on its own on the thumbnails). Any further ideas?

  • Tissybythesea Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for your reply Peter. I did have an hour's training at the Apple store before I started on this, they knew what I was trying to do and suggested turning off the 'contrain proportions' section on the metrics section of the Inspector. Do you think this is what has caused the problem with the importing of images?


    I just can't get section breaks inserted, if I go to Insert/sections the section break is greyed out and can't be used. I wonder if I could get them inserted I could delete the 2 spare pages.

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 (29,960 points)

    Tissybythesea wrote:


    Thanks Jerrold, unfortunately, that is what I have been doing and it hasn't worked - it deletes page 3 -5 (one 'section') when trying to delete page 5 and pages 4-6 when trying to delete page 6 (which incidentally, is a section on its own on the thumbnails). Any further ideas?

    Sorry, I misinterpreted your question. Follow Peter's advice and erase the invisible junk in your document.



  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 (34,587 points)

    It is difficult for us to guess exactly what you have done and what steps to fix it, without seeing the actual job.


    If you like click on my blue name and email me the document and I'll fix it and explain what I've done and why.



  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 (34,587 points)



    I have emailed you back the corrected file.


    Screen shot 2013-02-02 at 8.56.15 PM.jpg


    There are several problems with your document, but the principle one is that you tried to do it using the wrong template.


    For a fiddly layout like this, with lots of rotated objects and textboxes, using the Blank Word Processing template is bound to lead to problems, when you can't follow what is going on.


    Word Processing templates flow text from one page to the next and retract when there is no text on them. Think of them like a scroll of connected paper that runs from the beginning of the document until the text runs out.


    That scroll ignores any floating objects on top. Wherever the text runs out that is the end of the document. The floating objects are still in the document but can end up on pages that are no longer being displayed.


    You have a large number of assorted floating objects, images and textboxes which seem to have text wrap on them, which combined with the background image which also has text wrap on, causes unpredictable results pushing text off one page and onto the next. You had invisible characters, either returns or breaks that were forming pages that you then added the background and floating objects to.


    The last section break was pushed off the prior pages by the full page background's text wrap causing the blank page the section break was on plus the next page it broke to.


    When you deleted the Section Break, the Word Processing scroll dramatically shortened to the last previous character, 2 pages back, and no longer showed the pages in between with the floating objects on them.


    There were also other problems.


    1. The background graphic is much too low resolution to fill the page and is distorted, but I guess you can live with that.


    2. There was text that had overflowed some textboxes and was not showing


    3. The background was interfering and getting in the way of everything above it


    Rather than try and totally unravel this knotted ball of string, I have severed the Gordian knot and reconstructed the background as a locked background in a Page Section in a new Layout mode template. Then I grouped and copied over the floating images and textboxes. To the exact same positions as in the old document, fixing the overflows.


    The Layout mode will be less confusing for you as every page is its own section and stays visible even when blank. There is no page to page flow to stuff things up.


    You will find the master section for the "Parchment Page" under the Pages icon on the Toolbar. If you need more of those pages just click on the icon and select another page.