5 Replies Latest reply: Feb 2, 2013 5:25 PM by Tom Gewecke
Abbod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have installed couple of Arabic fonts other than the default ones available on Mac. I tried to use them in Pages, but the letters of one word are separated.

How can I fix that?


iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,450 points)

    You can't use Windows Arabic fonts with Pages, you have to the several which Apple provides or others you can find that use AAT technology.

     

    But it is pointless to use Pages for Arabic in any case, because of its various RTL bugs.  Instead use Mellel (the best), or TextEdit, Nisus Writer, or OpenOffice.

  • Abbod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Tom for your reply.

     

    I really hope this is not true, otherwise, I will feel like a fool who just put himself in trouble by buying a +3000$ iMac. I cannot understand how Apple is expecting from people to switch from Windows to Mac if they cannot do their day to day work in their mother languages. What will be the point of buying Mac system if i will be forced at the end of the day to install Windows on it?

     

    I have tried TextEdit and OpenOffice. They both are struggling to deal with Arabic fonts. These Apps, and Pages, are not designed to work with Arabic fonts nor Right-to-left languages. Mellel costs $39, and I am not willing to risk it after paying $40 for Pages and Numbers.

     

    Please, anyone, just provide with a solution. Or, Apple, you have to fix this thing very soon in the coming update.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,450 points)

    Abbod wrote:

     

    I have tried TextEdit and OpenOffice. They both are struggling to deal with Arabic fonts.

     

    I have never heard anyone complain about doing Arabic on TextEdit.  Can you provide more details of what problems you have?  I may be able to help.  Normally TextEdit can even use Windows fonts (unlike Pages).

     

    Also provide more details about problems with OpenOffice.

     

    Mellel has a free trial -- it is especially designed for Arabic and Hebrew writing, and that is what everyone normally uses for these scripts.  Also there is a new "lite" version in the Mac app store for only $5.

     

    Pages problems with RTL have been discussed here for many years now, and of course you are right that Apple should fix them.  You can add your voice to the others who have complained at

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html

  • Abbod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Tom for your reply and patiance.

     

    I have tried TextEdit again. It was fine in writing in arabic using user-installed fonts. However, this app cannot stand in front of Microsoft Word and Pages capabilities.

     

    Regarding Mellel, I couldnot find the free trial version in the App Store, however, I found the $5 version.

     

    Thanks for providing the link for sending the feedback. I have sent my feedback and I hope Apple will act fastly.

     

    If you found any workaround to write in Arabic and use Arabic fonts in Pages, then, please share it with me.

     

    Thanks again.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,450 points)

    Abbod wrote:

     

    I have tried TextEdit again. It was fine in writing in arabic using user-installed fonts. However, this app cannot stand in front of Microsoft Word and Pages capabilities.

     

    What features do you need that TextEdit is missing?  I may know of other alternatives.

     

    The free trial version of Mellel has to be downloaded from their website instead of the app store.

     

    Unfortunately the bugs in Pages (e.g. broken cursor operation, no setting for direction control, restriction to AAT fonts, no ability to input the ZWJ/ZWNJ characters required for some RTL scripts) have been known for 8 years, and to my knowledge no workarounds have been found other than composing everything in another app and seeing whether copy/paste will give the results you want.

     

    Regarding AAT Arabic fonts, Apple provides a few (Geeza Pro, Al Bayan, Baghdad, Damascus, DecoType Naskh, KufiStandard, Nadeem).  Others are (from SIL) Lateef AAT and Scheherazade AAT, and the XW Zar (and perhaps others) fonts available at

     

    http://www.redlers.com/downloadfont.html