2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro (2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 memory) running OS 10.8.2. It has two graphics components: an AMD Radeon HD 6750M and a built-in Intel HD Graphics 3000. Since I've had the computer, the screen would get a blue tint when the computer switched between them.


However, as of two days ago, the problem has become substantially more severe. The computer was working fine, when all of a suddent the screen when completely blue. I had to force restart the computer. Since then, the screen has gone awry on numerous occassions - each time necessitating a hard reset.


I installed gfxCardStatus, and have discovered that the computer runs fine using the integrated card, but as soon as I switch to the discrete card - the screen goes .


I am just wondering what my options are (any input on any of these would be appreciated!):


1) Replace the logic board. Would this necessarily fix the issue?


2) Is there any way to "fix" the graphics card?


3) Keep using gfxCardStatus and only use the integrated graphics card. This is definitely the easiest/cheapest option, but to have such a computer and not be able to use the graphics card seems like a real shame.


4) Is there any other alternative?


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB memory

Posted on Feb 1, 2013 4:45 PM

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Posted on Jan 17, 2018 12:30 AM

You could try these.


1. Find a repair shop that has a BGA -machine and does MacBook Pro GPU repairs. (no baking of the board). Had just my MacBook Pro 17' Early 2011 repaired in a local repair shop. Wasn't even Apple certified. Cost was 260 euros (including VAT).


2. Before you give them the laptop make sure they solder a new GPU chip - not the old one - as the the soldering quality won't be in that case equally good. The chip price was included in the 260 euros.


3. Use gfxCardStatus to take more control what GPU you are using and when.


4. Use your laptop only on hard surfaces to maximize the air ventilation. I admit it - little bit before mine broke I was watching La Vuelta VoD broadcast in HD in bed. Not having it on my legs but on bed. Bad airflow and HD video made it to heat too much.


5. You might consider also a temperature monitoring software. I haven't picked one yet myself. Any recommendations?


6. Prepare for it to fail again. Backups etc.

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Jan 31, 2015 3:11 AM in response to Darrell Stall

Darrell Stall wrote:


No, THIS is from Mountain Lion, and information was "tested" by looking at my System Preferences or I wouldn't have posted such.

Your screen shot is from Mavericks/Yosemite.

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A Dios!

From what specific Mac was that image taken from? Does that Mac have a a discrete GPU or just an integrated one? My samples were from a 17" 2011 MBP that has a discrete GPU. I suspect that yours does not! Again I stand by my original statement that you in essence have not done all your homework.


Your screen shot is from Mavericks/Yosemite.


If my sample were from Mavericks and Yosemite, they would look like this:

Yosemite:

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Mavericks:

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Do you notice that the four images I have posted are ALL different? I suggest that you look at them carefully, especially the one for Yosemite which has a significantly different look.


YOUR ASSERTION THAT I POSTED INCORRECT INFORMATION I TAKE ISSUE WITH!


Ciao.

Feb 4, 2015 2:09 AM in response to TheOriginalPol

First thing I did when I got mine back was begin stress testing it... Seldom went above 70c for me, even with a blanket resting on top. (17" early 2011) been running it at home all day, so we'll see what the word is when I get off work.

Hmm, that seems more like a safe temperature. But then the 17" enclosure probably has more heat dissipating capacity.


I took the logic board out of my 15 MBP2011 and replaced the gray thermal paste which was on the chips with Arctic Alumina "Arctic Silver" paste. The temperatures are still very high even with the new paste... Running GpuTest it can go up 90+ briefly. When the fans rev-up the temperature does come down quite rapidly. That is probably the only difference I can see at the moment


Below the pic of the old paste on the replacement logic board. As you can see, the gray paste is not evenly spread out on the chips.



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Feb 6, 2015 7:43 AM in response to abelliveau

Hi, i guess to have the same problem here. I own MacBook Pro purchased here in Italy on July 2011 (2.0 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3) running OSx 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) with AMD Radeon HD 6490M as discrete video card and Intel HD Graphics 3000 as integrated.

From january of this year it started to display artifacts on the screen (blue, red screen with orizontal lines) after about 30min of utilization, and had to force reboot everytime, since two weeks ago when it freezed completely and then fails in booting up (vertical lines at startup, then apple logo appears and doesn't enter in the system anymore).


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Taking a look in previous thread i've seen that Apple suggests a logic card replacement in this case that doesn't solve the issue 😟 it's really frustrating considering macbook costs at that time.

Is there anyone experimenting the same problem who has found an alternative solution for this?

Feb 7, 2015 10:51 AM in response to jimoase

Apple Police (or Apple Troll) — If "these forums are [indeed] meant for technical questions that can be answered by the community" as you claim as "reason" for deleting my comments, then why is it full of nontechnical questions/answers to the point of as much as 25% or more (your estimate is as good as mine — you do the math since you're the one "moderating"). Why, for instance, isn't this ongoing "math problem" "discussion" which is filling up my email inbox deleted from the thread, but my comments are when I simply point out the reality of what is going on — narcissistic "last word" behavior that is as easily predictable as Chatty Cathy's "talk" once the string (Reply button) has been clicked, I mean pulled enough times. So why (per your "reasoning" for deleting my posts) isn't CC's language "inappropriate" "flaming" etc. etc as many times as its gone on and on about how others are lying, etc. etc.? And in this "high tech" highly computerized age, why don't I have the preference for hiding some participants in my face posts I don't care to see or read (u know who?), and customize my subscription to this thread so I don't have to get their idiotic replies in my inbox?

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Feb 9, 2015 4:44 PM in response to XLT77

XLT77 wrote:

wrherdon

You are quite right. The shareholders drive this company now and more precisely their inroads in China and Japan are moving the bar. People have to start thinking about the Apple culture.
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I am really hoping that the numbers of failed computers pile up so high that they are going to offer a real fix for this.

Well.. I guess this explains it all....?

One may wonder which % of those Mac Units in 2011/beginning 2012 were 2011 MBP's.

One may also wonder what % of those MBP's have this problem.

Apple does really not seem to be looking forward to doing a recall on those numbers and rather have their 'beloved customers' cough up some more dough for some extra failure boards, so the numbers at least keep going further up.

Although the right diagram also displays a clear reason why they really wouldn't want to bother themselves with this issue EVER.

Macs just don't mean much anymore share wise as it seems...

Quality vs quantity... Hmm...

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Source: http://www.macworld.com/article/2062821/apple-by-the-numbers-mac-not-dead-yet.ht ml

Feb 19, 2015 10:44 PM in response to vsingha2k

vsingha2k wrote:


@jimoase - horizontal stripes, here are images

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http://thinkmarketingmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/History_of_Apple_Lo go.gif

Hey thanks .... that's close. I don't remember the frame or ribbon. Remember it was on a coffee cup so there was a lot less detail than what is shown so it looked good on the coffee cup.


I must have some pictures in a box someplace that caught a coffee cup sitting on a work bench or desk. Time to look through the depths of the basement.

Feb 20, 2015 6:09 AM in response to Bill Eccles

Be not deceived. An earlier class action lawsuit was dismissed, not the one that will be decided early April whether it moves forward or not.

As usual, manipulation and control is trying to create an illusion otherwise. Why do you think after all this time Apple suddenly decides to issue a repair program? Out of the "goodness" of it's heart? Yeah, right!

"Products affected

15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro models manufactured in 2011

15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina models manufactured from Mid 2012 to Early 2013"

"The program covers affected MacBook Pro models until February 27, 2016 or three years from its original date of sale, whichever provides longer coverage for you."

In other words, Apple is offering to replace logic boards for machines no more than 3 years after production for those manufactured in Early 2013, or for a bit longer for those produced earlier, and nothing else, as the standard 1 year warranty that covers other items remains in effect. You can bet this is being argued with legal sophistry as being "fair" and "reasonable" ENOUGH and that Apple should not be forced to do anything more. In other words, this is just more snookering in self interest instead of real customer service. Of course, the "program" makes no mention of what happens if those logic boards too fail, like so many others reported in this thread have. Such repairs typically come with only 90 day warranty. Part of the legal sophistry argument no doubt is that the minimum 3 year post production repair is sufficient - in other words, even if product fails outside of warranty, the minimum of 3 year 3 month lifespan on such product is "reasonable". The "program" of course doesn't address any of the consequences of such product failure. You can bet that if Apple suffered anything like its customers have, it would be all over the courts fighting for compensation for "damages".
As far as spending time and energy on the phone with Apple, I already have and all that's left as recourse is writing a letter.

Which do you think is more effective? Communicating with Apple or telling THOUSANDS about how Apple treated its long term, 24+ year loyal customer?
If you think the former, then I have beachfront property in AZ for sale for you.
My "rant" as it's been called in this thread is so Apple can "see" just what a dissatisfied customer looks like telling THOUSANDS instead of a satisfied customer telling merely hundreds - something else to point out in my letter, which I find hard to believe will be anything more than more exercise of futility based on how the legally fictitious "person", Apple Computer INC has behaved up until now. I don't think Apple has repented after spending time contemplating self reflection, even though it's been known for millenia that "The UNEXAMINED life isn't worth living." — Plato

Like all things modern, Apple picks and choses like a smorgasbord what it wants to "believe" is true, good, important, fair reasonable. See how Ayn Rand called her subjectivism "objectivism" as if she were the source of Absolute Truth. Remember, she is the goddess of Silicon Valley as revealed in "All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace" by Adam Curtis — http://thoughtmaybe.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/ — and her bogus "philosophy" the "reasoning" by which the inmates run the asylum, parading themselves as highly intelligent, responsible, etc. as if they know what's best for everyone as they always have. A tiger has never changed its stripes, and neither have power mongers.

Rand set herself up as goddess, as Absolute authority and judge of who is virtuous and deserving love on that basis and who isn't deserving, according to her. She is an legalistic goddess that's nothing like Deity that loves unconditionally the "apple of its eye", humanity whom it has created in its own image and likeness. Rand's so called "objectivism" is anything but, merely "subjectivism" lying and calling its Self "objective", rationalization all dressed up in drag of "reason", the raging of the mind gone beserk. Like most things "modern" she is the inverse of what she claims to be as is her "philosophy" (love of Sophia, wisdom) which by no means deserves such recognition. Yet this is the "thinking", the motivation on which Silicon Valley is built.

"I only speculated since it just doesn't make sense for Apple to offer a repair program and use old logic boards, knowing by now that the refurbished ones break down all over again. I just think there's a higher chance for any logic boards replaced from February 20th onwards to be new ones, but I don't know for sure. I guess you could ask the Apple people when you go in for repairs."
LOL - and what do you think those "geniuses" would tell you? Most likely what they think you want to hear if anything at all because a) they're clueless, or b) they've been told what to say by "admin" and they know to follow the Apple rules (control) or they won't have a paycheck.

Once again, it all comes down to "modern" economics, of which the Apple corporate culture is a reflection, like most if not all others.
It's a ruse, and filled with lies that the power mongers tell themselves in order to "think" they are actually doing "good".

Do you really think that's going to change just by spending a few hours on the phone with some underling who's just doing what they're "paid" to do, no differently than a prostitute? Seriously?

If you look at the inscription on the Steve Jobs concoction featuring Isaac Newton, you will note "A Mind Forever Voyaging…. Alone" which is a ripoff of a 1985 interactive fiction game — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mind_Forever_Voyaging

— which shows the truth of human creativity and inventiveness, that "no man is an island" and we are forever "borrowing" form one another, most importantly those who've come before us. Yet it is the "modern" peculiarity to selfishly claim that an "individual" owns such a thing as "intellectual property" as if they created such entirely on their own out of thin air, and then go to great lengths to "protect" their self proclaimed castle.

Whether the Apple has stripes or not matters not. For over 1900 years prior to the "birth" of Apple Computer, INC, the bitten apple and rainbow meant something totally different and revealing regarding what in the d(evil)'s gotten into Apple and the modern world that is creating this delusional, illusion, this big lie — "fallen" human nature (bitten apple) as personified in Pinocchio.

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The "economist" claim that "THE modern world was made by Isaac Newton."

http://www.economist.com/node/2003425

But "modernism" actually began many centuries earlier with loss of understanding in Western Europe of communion/community as basis of cosmology, of Cosmos (Greek: Order)

Renaissance = man proclaims Self as the measure of ALL things

Enlightenment = elevation of human reason to status above ALL as god (in place of God)

"individual" vs Real Person

"corporation" (legal fiction) vs Community, Communion

blockhead, puppet vs real boy

fiction (lie) vs Truth

profit motive vs. Motivation to attain virtue

self interest vs. Altruism, Philanthropy (as proclaimed by Ayn Rand and implemented by Silicon Valley)

Icons In Today's World

http://aidanharticons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Austin-Icons-in-Modern-Worl d-1.pdf

http://fatherdavidbirdosb.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-individual-and-church-eastern .html

All this is evidenced in how America politically loves to parade itself as a "christian" nation (i.e. manipulate "god" to its own ends, its own selfish delusional desire). Apple stands part and parcel in the midst of this theater of the absurd as leader of the pack, and in no way head and shoulders above it.

If Apple is "one of the best", then that's saying very little indeed.

Misdirection is multifaceted, and its multitude of faces are all ugly.

(Real) Beauty (Truth) will save the world. — Dostoevsky

Believe whatever, but the fact remains, our pre "modern" ancestors would not fall for such ruse, would not be such fools.

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