Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card
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Dec 1, 2014 7:10 AMby GavMackem,if if you are in the UK seek bga-repairs ebay store and he will reball your AMD for a fraction of that price. Though he will probably warn you the chances of a long term fix lessen if it's already had a second GPU reballed on it already.
they are the company I refer all my clients to in the UK.
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Dec 1, 2014 7:13 AMby obwianMacobi,chrisfromkenilworth wrote:
Maybe a good news story for a change?
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Anyway, it took a very long time, but 3 weeks later I finally got the call last Friday afternoon, picked it up the same day. I've ended up with a brand new 2014 15" retina MBP with 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD plus an external superdrive as I'm a film photographer and get lots of CDs from the labs. Total cost: my old, defunct 2011 MacBook Pro plus the £416 for the "repair".
Well, YMMV as they say, but for those going down the replacement MLB route, perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Great result! - I'm definitely holding out for a replacement machine, as I've lost all faith my late 2011, Model. It's a shame you had to part with any cash though.
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Dec 1, 2014 7:38 AMby earikan35,Does anyone have a good reballing contact in Istanbul? I've been told that turkish apple stores won't replace macbook pros, even if repairs fail too many times, which is high likely to happen from what I read in this forum. therefore reballing seems like the only sound option for us?
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Dec 1, 2014 7:54 AMby D3us,Csound1 wrote:
D3us wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
philux wrote:
The GPU soldering failure is because Apple decided to not use Mercury to adhere to "environmental standards"...how stupid! The other 99% of the laptop isn't environmentally friendly, so why skimp on the part that requires a toxic ingredient the most?
In most of the world (including the EU) the use of solder containing lead is banned. It's poisonous and has killed millions of people.
And you want Apple to start using it, really?
Csound1, facts please?
That is about about lead in paint.
Not what we were talking about.
It was about lead solder, not lead in paint.
We all now lead is bad. And surely shouldn't be used on toys as kids put it in their mout.
Or the painters inhaling the solvents in it, containing lead too probably.
Or on painted surfaces where people constantly touch it etc...
Won't see anyone opening his computer/laptop/notebook to breath in air coming of it or lick the components...
We know EU banned it in electronics too but it might have been wiser not to.
Gave you a link and explanation why lead free could even be more damaging then lead solder.
Making urepairable, things is much more damaging to the environment.
Apple is one of the most guilty on this.
You would say to me:
Oh wait, I THINK you would say to me:
Oh, dam, then you woudl go: How can you know what I think....
Well, I don't care, will just say what I think you would say to me:
Stick to the point.
You do the same please,
We are talking electronics devices here, not paint.
Unless you painted your macbook ...
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Dec 1, 2014 8:00 AMby GavMackem,It's no solace to those who want to keep the latest and greatest big screen 17 inch Macbook Pro though. Plus even if mine did go wrong there is no way in the world I would want my MBP away for weeks on end getting those 3 strikes then retina 15 time. At least I know if mine does go down it'll be 5 working days max for bga-repairs to do the necessary reballing for less than half what Apple charge. I remember last year a UK refurb logic board cost £417, with £550 now it's even more galling to see that Apple's flawed logic board inflation cost is 20%. Shocking again.
Though I do no hard GPU or CPU tasks on my MBP - that is my Mac Pro 5,1's domain. A Macintosh computer which you can truly thrash its CPU and GPU hard for as long as you like and will not break down!
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Dec 1, 2014 8:38 AMby GavMackem,It's D3us's choice to use lead as unlike yourself he is a solder reballer and reworker engineer - willing to risk his own red blood cells getting Lead inside them so his clients can have an effective long lasting MBP 2011 GPU repair.
And your choice is based on absolutely no foundation of electronic engineering knowledge whatsoever and you don't even own an affected model like we do, and us users in the Apple community on this thread want the most effective long term fix that is possible. Your name came up a lot in that 10 minute call that I received from executive relations a few hours ago btw..
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Dec 1, 2014 8:51 AMby Csound1,GavMackem wrote:
Your name came up a lot in that 10 minute call that I received from executive relations a few hours ago btw..
Threats not withstanding I remain opposed to your campaign for the use of more lead in consumer electronics (Macs particularly) it is (in my opinion) a self serving stance. I am opposed to it being used in consumer repairs as well. So we have no common ground (I won't stoop so low as to utter vacuous threats)
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Dec 1, 2014 8:55 AMby GavMackem,As a footnote to all of this I think a list of reball and plate reprofile services should be created for this user community for these 2011's worldwide - at some point today or tomorrow I will setup a wiki thread over on Macrumors in the Macbook Pro hardware section to compile the lists for all the different countries and states. This will purely make it easier for any user in the world who visits this huge thread that cannot afford or does not wish to have the merry go round of logic board swaps and having their MacBook Pro away for over a month to find local help for as economical price as possible. If anyone has any details in the meantime please post them on replies here or send a pm to Gav Mack on macrumors with any details.
This thread will solely be used for a user to get specialist help - there are other places on macrumors such as the news section to discuss other things such as the lawsuits so it will not be the place for that, just a repairs wiki hub thread in reality that should not fall foul of Apple's T&C on this board which will be crucial linking to it everyone. All I care about is the best solution if the community can provide it then hats off to us and the rest you should hang your heads in shame.
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Dec 1, 2014 8:59 AMby eris23,What I want is a properly designed and thoroughly tested Apple product that shows the much advertised "care" Apple has for its customers. I want it to comply with all environmental laws and regulations and I want it to perform to its designed specification.
2011 MacBook Pro's do not - I own two lemons.
If Apple doesn't want to make and sell products under the above regime and regulations then fine .. but it does .. so they need to work for more than 3 years.
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Dec 1, 2014 9:05 AMby GavMackem,One again I will repeat myself once again as I deal in reality, not implied or hysterical. My words were a statement of fact as always, how you interpret them on the other hand is up to you. But nevertheless I was happy that they called me, this situation spitting in the soup breaking the debate down consistently for the past year simply has to stop.
We need solutions and not distractions and flame words over the odd angry word said here or there - they are irrelevant and don't help any user in this community with a 2011 GPU that is broken.
