Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card
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Dec 1, 2014 10:23 AMby akamyself,Csound1 wrote:
One popular theory in this thread is that it is the fault of Apple not using leaded solder that is at the heart of this matter. There even recomendations "not to accept" lead free repairs.
That is why lead is being mentioned in this thread, even justified
this is just your opinion and a jump to an easy but wrong conclusion.
in other words, this is just more noise coming from you.
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Dec 1, 2014 10:31 AMby GavMackem,You have known full well for this year that I do not run a reball service. I do however strip down these 2011's, redo the thermal paste and reprofile the contact plates to make them run significantly cooler as I've been saying that for the past year also and you also know that too. I'm afraid trying to attempt to make valid contributions to this thread when the heat is on regarding your conduct will be as transparent as glass, to not only us regular contributors but executive relations and the board administrators too as I sent my email of complaint about your past years conduct to both parties. And unlike the engineering guidelines I am hopeful to see some action in a positive light.
So we can all carry on and help each other with our 2011 MBP's without persistent disruption.
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Dec 1, 2014 10:47 AMby akamyself,Csound1 wrote:
You may not think that lead or no lead has been suggested as a part of the problem, but it has. Try reading the thread.
actually I do, I been reading every single post from this thread since late january, my first post. took a look around from its start too, from time to time.
was actually pretty quiet and useful until you started participating in june.
that is why I know you're pretending doing things here for the community of affected users while actually you are not.
it's not you're just refusing to give proofs but that you just can't.
lead vs lead free, yeah well why do you care anyway, again, you don't have any macbook "pro" with integrated and amd. therefore, you can't share your experience and won't give any opinion because that would be speculating, so you say.
so for x times again, what is your point in this thread?
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Dec 1, 2014 10:50 AMby Csound1,akamyself wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
You may not think that lead or no lead has been suggested as a part of the problem, but it has. Try reading the thread.
actually I do, I been reading every single post from this thread since late january, my first post. took a look around from its start too, from time to time.
was actually pretty quiet and useful until you started participating in june.
that is why I know you're pretending doing things here for the community of affected users while actually you are not.
it's not you're just refusing to give proofs but that you just can't.
What proofs would you like me to provide?
You only have to ask.
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Dec 1, 2014 11:03 AMby D3us,Csound1 wrote:
One popular theory in this thread is that it is the fault of Apple not using leaded solder that is at the heart of this matter. There even recomendations "not to accept" lead free repairs.
That is why lead is being mentioned in this thread, even justified
A few 100 pages back I wrote it is a soldering production process. Be it the lead free solder, a bad soldering profile or technique, used solder, pcb finish or whatever.
Apple designed and sells them, so they are responsible in the end.
Different people, different opinions, different experiences.
Rework/reball is not black and white.
The soldering has to be done following some rules.
Sometimes these rules might even be bend for better success but withing boundaries.
Like I said, depending the job.
Others state to use new chips only. Well, if they are new, they have lead free solder.
On some models or pcbs resoldering those at lead free solder temps can destroy other chips.
In which case it is better to reball even that new chip with lead solder before placing it so we can use lower temps for soldering it back.
This is where experience comes in.
But, yes it is justified.
Sometimes a lead reball is not necessary, sometimes it is the best solution.
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Dec 1, 2014 10:55 AMby briantho,I'm in Vaud too and I'm following everything here closely as my Early 2011, 17" MBP packed up completely a month or two ago having displayed some pretty strange graphics. (I mentioned this many hundreds of messages ago.)
Based on what I read here any repairs would be pointless so in the meantime I bought the latest, fastest MBP as I have to continue with my 'work' using FCPX which, of course, only runs on Macs.
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Dec 1, 2014 10:57 AMby GavMackem,You should have read enough of my posts to have easily gleaned all that knowledge by now about what I do for a living unless you really don't care less one tiny bit. I suspect it is all about amassing those preciouss points and persistent disruptive behaviour contrary to t&c 5,2
Unlike you I see every affected user on here as a person; because in my profession I have had to fix these 2011's for clients who are in extreme stress because they are being given the option of a flawed repair for an exorbitant cost. i prefer to save my clients money instead and get the best possible fix, as whenever I do work on a Mac I like it to be fixed and stay fixed as every professional consultant engineer absolutely should else they are not worth employing quite frankly.
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Dec 1, 2014 11:03 AMby akamyself,Csound1 wrote:
akamyself wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
You may not think that lead or no lead has been suggested as a part of the problem, but it has. Try reading the thread.
actually I do, I been reading every single post from this thread since late january, my first post. took a look around from its start too, from time to time.
was actually pretty quiet and useful until you started participating in june.
that is why I know you're pretending doing things here for the community of affected users while actually you are not.
it's not you're just refusing to give proofs but that you just can't.
What proofs would you like me to provide?
You only have to ask.
I only did just that, look back a few pages, not going to do it again. was relevant enough.
wasted too much time with you already but I see today you just reached a new high in popularity so congratulations to you.
and in the meantime, you just polluted this thread a bit more and will take it as an excuse to discredit it as a whole in a while.
said it before, you're part of the problem here, not the solution.
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Dec 1, 2014 11:04 AMby Csound1,GavMackem wrote:
You should have read enough of my posts to have easily gleaned all that knowledge by now about what I do for a living unless you really don't care less one tiny bit. I suspect it is all about amassing those preciouss points and persistent disruptive behaviour contrary to t&c 5,2
Points are not awarded for posting, only for providing solutions or helpful responses to problems. You know that, you have had at least most 3 posters award points to you for your help.
I know only what an anonymous poster posts, how much credence can be placed in things like that varies.
You know exactly the same about me.
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Dec 1, 2014 11:26 AMby GavMackem,Even as an engineer of 20 years plus experience posting in my spare time for 6 years on macrumors before I came onto this thread I doubt I would have had the time to help 7775 users to give me each 5 points for every tricky problem I have helped them solve, I would have no income. In fact I'd say unless these problems were very easy ones to solve I'd say that borders on the impossible. Therefore it must be harvesting the new easy peasy answers to amass that many so quickly surely?
Though I did contribute to getting AHCI working for Windows users booting off SSD's in bootcamp on the older model Macintosh equipment though this 2011 model in particular was the most difficult of all. Having to boot off an OS X USB boot stick and use terminal to copy a patch file into the hybrid MBR so Windows would boot in AHCI and not in IDE mode was a real pain.
And I will be happy to remain at 15 points forever as I believe only the truly really difficult problems are worth persisting with and this GPU issue is nowhere near as solved as I'd like it to get..
