Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

When you're right, you're right!

good luck with that, many tried nicely to let him understand why he's not welcomed here, he don't want to hear or better yet, go.

he's level 8, man, that's hierarchy and he wants respect accordingly.

for the record, he is investigating for us victims here but people like me don't let him.

I'll be polite to all who stick to the truth, to the ones who like to make up their own facts less so.

eris23 wrote:

 

Csound1

 

I would love the facts but we need them from Apple  and we cannot get them.

 

I would love Apple to release the logic board replacement stats for all Warranty and Paid replacements on 2009 / 2010 / 2011 /  2012 / 2013  MBP's .. that data should settle the question as to whether the 2011 MBP is special statistically. To be honest the conjecture is only happening because of the silence.

 

to me its really that simple

But that's not going to happen, suit has been filed and all those statistics will be subject to discovery. We will not see them until after the trial (if there is one).

That door got closed already.

Csound1 wrote:

 

I'll be polite to all who stick to the truth, to the ones who like to make up their own facts less so.

and mostly because it's pretty safe not to be polite behind a screen, enjoyable too.

truth is all relative, you know that, right.

Correct so essentially we are in a Hofstadter strange loop*  and we cannot get "the truth" so all will be conjecture

*A strange loop arises when, by moving only upwards or downwards through a hierarchical system, one finds oneself back where one started.

The only fact checking you did some comments ago was verifying that "The law came into effect in 2006"

In any way a direct consequence of this is "the 2011 model was not the first, please do some basic fact checking" as you implied; in fact exemptions are in place for those facing problems steering their production to lead-free.

I'm glad you pointed to a reliable source, you could have bothered doing it in the first place.

It may be hard for you to understand, I'm not a supporter of a thesis, I'm not here to win consensus, I just said it was *yet unproved* that 2011 was not the first because you didn't bother to prove it. As stated before, if you have facts just share them. Your arrogance only adds noise.

Truth is absolute,

Here is an example

When I said that the 2011 model was not the first MBP manufactured using lead free solder the usual chorus broke out in dissent. The truth however did not change. I stated a fact, the chorus ran on opinion.

Or do you disagree with that as well?

Here is another

When philux stated that Apple received a 5 year exemption (2006 to 2011) he was telling a falsehood, once again no matter how much support he has for his statement it remains untrue

This is the absolute nature of truth, it is not relative.

And the MBP 2011 is not the first Apple product to be recalled for a GPU issue  (Nvidia or AMD) so the question is .. why is the MBP 2011 different ?

Same answer

There is no useful information on the cause of this issue, just rumor and speculation. This thread has been wasted.

alessiodd wrote:

 

I'm glad you pointed to a reliable source, you could have bothered doing it in the first place.

And I am happy to note that you have not posted any sources, reliable or otherwise, at any time.

And still by far the most successful way to troll a forum is to make a statement with 99% fact and let the condescending truth seeker who posted just before you generate hundreds of posts.

It's been a fun 250 posts Csound1 but I doubt you would spot the hook amongst your anger.

Hopefully some more people took notice in the meantime, just as I did. Had my Macbook Pro 2011 for 2 years working well, slow & laggy in the last year and finally a GPU fail.

Scratched my head for a while at what to do, then found this post and a few other online things with pretty similar issues (end result). I had a little hope.

From looking at your profile you don't even own a Macbook Pro 2011, so for someone who is so keen on facts and truth, why are you contributing to this forum if you don't have the issue the OP is talking about?

Is it because you are a Level 8 Apple Forum god? Sorry to anyone jumping on the 2006/2011 bandwagon or even the Mercury/Lead dispute (Mercury melts at -38 centigrade, an easy spot )

I've been reading this forum for a while before I made any initial post and noticed you taking this forum wildly off topic with every second poster to prove a point when we are already trying to solve something with nothing to research. How annoying are you.

The topic is about sporadic 2011 Macbook Pro GPU failures mainly happening around the 3 year lifespan. Can you find me a link for that explaining it in detail or are you going to make more useless noise to an audience of very annoyed consumers?

Csound1 wrote:

 

Truth is absolute,

 

Here is an example

 

When I said that the 2011 model was not the first MBP manufactured using lead free solder the usual chorus broke out in dissent. The truth however did not change. I stated a fact, the chorus ran on opinion.

 

Or do you disagree with that as well?

maybe you didn't study philosophy.

truth is a point of view, got yours, got mine.

a fact is different so as an expert, some kind of scientist you present yourself as, you should just use the correct words to precisely express your meaning.

I don't reject everything you say, rather the way you say (write) it like pointed out many times before by so many people (like me?).

but thanks again for concluding that a conjonction of lead free soldering and heat dissipation issues might, amongst other undetermined factors, be the cause of the problem "some" are experiencing.

probably anyone following this thread even for a few weeks already understood that but when you put it out, it just looks way more professional.

hope you'll keep digging, I'll step aside so I, and "people like me", don't get in your way because we need you on our side, bro.

philux wrote:

 

From looking at your profile you don't even own a Macbook Pro 2011, so for someone who is so keen on facts and truth, why are you contributing to this forum if you don't have the issue the OP is talking about?

You don't get to choose who posts here, you have authority over yourself, you can choose to use it or not. It does not extend farther than that.

Oh. Aren't you the chap that made up the false story about Apple and EU exemptions?

Got any more?

Anyway, in case someone who was interested missed it (or even has the time to listen) *********

Perhaps you can spot where I went wrong in my arguments so you can bolster yours when you have to deal with Apple.

I don't have my Macbook back yet but quite clearly Apple aren't budging on anything.

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