Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

Csound1 wrote:

 

D3us wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

The PCie drives in the MBP's are not 'soldered' they fit in a connector and OWC already sell replacement options up to 1TB.

Things change fast.

That's correct, for now at least.

I ment more should they start soldering those to the pcbs in the future.

Excuse will probably be for more speed, as no extra resistance/impedance from connector etc...

Which in fact would be neglectable.

 

In that case I would say: nope, no go for me.

In fact, soldered or not upgradable memory is allready a no go for me.

 

Not upgradeable? Customers should stay away from it.

As I have said before, you are here promoting your business, You are not an unbiased observer, you're a vendor to these people, and you do it for financial gain

 

The fact is that whatever you say the PCie drives in new MBP's are removable.

Not one word in D3us' comment promotes his business in fact. Whatever drive, soldered or not, would be in the future MBP's (which he talks about) or whatever memory, has absolutely no relation to why he's HELPING people out here. He was expressing his PERSONAL OPINION (which is his right) about what he finds pleasant or not regarding a possible future IF they would solder drives to the PCBs (which is unlikely when they have PCIe slots, but it's factually unpredictable also, unless you can predict the absolute future).

He's helping people more then you in fact, because you mostly create unpleasant feelings here in people. Not because you're wrong necessarily, but because of your anti-social methods of delivering your messages.

D3us on the other hand, is trying to help people for real with practical solutions.

If he were so much only about profit, he'd charge "normal" prices (=double of what he asks) which are asked in most places..

I respect that you know a ton of facts. It would be great if you'd also update your library on social skills.

devarshi108 wrote:

 

To Csound1: In fact, D3us is simply offering people a way forward, one that Apple should be doing.

One that he receives financial compensation for. Which makes him a biased (as opposed to unbiased) observer.

devarshi108 wrote:

 

To Csound1: In fact, D3us is simply offering people a way forward, one that Apple should be doing. I bet anything that D3us would be thrilled to see Apple recall and replace all of the faulty Macbook Pros, even though it would affect his business (though I guess he does a whole lot more than just reflowing Macbook Pro logic boards). I see others promoting D3us as a good quality repairperson more than D3us himself. That says plenty....

exactly.

Csound1 wrote:

+1

The most reliable method of Recovering the data is to remove the drive from the Mac and use it externally.

Ehm, just so I don't misunderstand my own thoughts;

I wrote "take out the hard/ssd drive and connect this drive via any SATA > USB adapter".

How is that not external use...?

Instead of discussing "possible futures" try dealing with reality.

I do not predict the future, I leave that to charlatans of one kind or another.

kayazuki wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

+1

The most reliable method of Recovering the data is to remove the drive from the Mac and use it externally.

Ehm, just so I don't misunderstand my own thoughts;

I wrote "take out the hard/ssd drive and connect this drive via any SATA > USB adapter".

How is that not external use...?

Are you not capable of understanding that I just agreed with you,

This is like kindergarten.

Csound1: Financial reimbursement for one's time and expertise is only one of many causes of bias, and far from the most extreme bias that we're seeing here, based on your comments. The fact that he's freely helping people here with advice, without promoting his business, speaks to a lack of bias. I think you could learn some social skills from him, especially the very simple skill of trying to help people. To paraphrase someone else here, it's easier to be clever than kind.

Csound1 wrote:

Instead of discussing "possible futures" try dealing with reality.

I do not predict the future, I leave that to charlatans of one kind or another.

Could you try dealing with facts AND dealing with more social behaviour?

If you're so much about facts, it'd look seriously good on you to consider the fact that most people here dislike your anti social behaviour.

You, clearly, justify that behind the excuse of being factual.

But consider these 2 situations:

1) "Hi, those drives are actually placed in a PCIe slot which will most likely remain, meaning, drives will be removable."

2) "You only promote your business, you are not an unbiased observer, you're a vendor, you do it for financial gain"

If you can see the difference between those 2 approaches, then you'll get my respect.

If you can't see what we're all trying to tell you here, then you may have some condition or you're simply deliberately un-social and then I will no longer react to any unsocial comment from you in the future. And yes, I would stick to that. So feel free to give it a try.

akamyself wrote:

 

devarshi108 wrote:

 

To Csound1: In fact, D3us is simply offering people a way forward, one that Apple should be doing. I bet anything that D3us would be thrilled to see Apple recall and replace all of the faulty Macbook Pros, even though it would affect his business (though I guess he does a whole lot more than just reflowing Macbook Pro logic boards). I see others promoting D3us as a good quality repairperson more than D3us himself. That says plenty....

exactly.

For money, it's a business.

I am sorry that you can not understand that taking money for a service is not a favor. It is a business.

Please note that I make no comment about the quality of his work, merely that it is his work.

kayazuki wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

Instead of discussing "possible futures" try dealing with reality.

I do not predict the future, I leave that to charlatans of one kind or another.

Could you try dealing with facts AND dealing with more social behaviour?

If you're so much about facts, it'd look seriously good on you to consider the fact that most people here dislike your anti social behaviour.

What does that have to do with the problem, this is not a therapy session. If you want someone to hold your hand you are in the wrong place.

Stay on topic (read the terms of use again)

Csound1 wrote:

 

As I have said before, you are here promoting your business, You are not an unbiased observer, you're a vendor to these people, and you do it for financial gain.

This might be  hard to believe but I started this again (repairing) as people who knew I used to do that in the past asked me to.

Has allways been a hooby for me too.

The machines and eqpuipment to do it cost money too, have to be payed from something.

I'm not using a 30$ heat gun for it....

People have the choice to let me fix it or Apple. Difference be what they have to pull out of their wallet...

Computers have allways been a hobby for me, people new that and asked me to build them for them.

So, I did it but I look at it more from a hobbyist/user then a seller pov, allways trying to give good honest advise.

Difference is I even prefer not to sell one over selling something not fullfilling expectations.

One advise would be not buy an expensive computer if it's not upgradable or repairable.

In the end, the one that benefits most is the customer.

Should it fail, could bring me a new sale.

Well, I prefer to be able to help out and fix it at a resonable price later if needed.

Not all can buy new stuff lilke you when something breaks..

Csound1 wrote:

The fact is that whatever you say the PCie drives in new MBP's are removable.

On that I agreed with you.

(Yes, that happens sometimes, if you're right, you're right)

But who says that might not change in the future? And get soldered to the logic board too instead of beeing replacable?

Again, would tell my customer why not to go for that but to opt for something upgradable/repairable.

That is what I would do, my personal, not business related opinion.

Would be much better for the environment too if people would be more aware of it.

Csound1 wrote:

For money, it's a business.

I am sorry that you can not understand that taking money for a service is not a favor. It is a business.

And I'm sure I speak for all of us here that we are truly sorry that you do not understand anything about social skills.

It was really interesting to see how and attempt to reach your social side would turn out and you've proven yourself totally incapable of being anything else then technically factual.

I've learned that there are no stupid questions, only (really) stupid answers.

I wish you much pleasure being you, and I hope you make at least one person happy with it, so you're not alone. I'll continue my social life now, adios!

we do understand what business is, no need to act like you think you know what we mean or not, that doesn't make you any clever, on the contrary.

only thing you should be sorry for is your lack of help in this thread, don't bother about the rest.

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devarshi108 wrote:

 

Csound1: Financial reimbursement for one's time and expertise is only one of many causes of bias,

Correct, specifically it is the cause of D3us's bias.

If you wish to speculate farther I will remind you that you are violating the terms of use.

Csound1: I understand that some people take money and rip you off. Some give you a fair deal and are neutral. Some give you a fair deal and go overboard in helping you out with advice, service, and friendly attitude. Money/business is not a binary issue of good/bad, or neutral/biased. There are people who get my business who I consider my friends, because of the way they've treated me over the years. I've learned to trust them to have my interests in mind - I'm seeing some of that in D3us and his comments here. Most others here have made a similar observation. These are basic social skills. You could actually learn from some of the comments here. Really.